Does it matter? Once all the local busy-bodies get to work and moan endlessly that the new leisure centre is not in the Regency stylee it will get canned.
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A Very Real Problem: Lack of Sports Facilities in Brighton & Hove
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Does it matter? Once all the local busy-bodies get to work and moan endlessly that the new leisure centre is not in the Regency stylee it will get canned.
Southover Street Seagull
Well-known member
Looking at this particular piece on the Brighton Society's website:
http://www.brighton-society.org.uk/?p=3213
Whilst I agree with their criticism of too many people being crammed into this development their idea that office space can be transferred to the old Amex building in Edward Street is not workable. The site of 154 Edward Street has been sold to Brighton University and the 'Wedding Cake' is due for demolition in 2016 hopefully paving the way for a much better development in Edward Street.
It's much like this website - all about opinions!
The Large One
Who's Next?
Among officers, probably not. After the next election, there could well be a councillor who would.
But I'm not saying who.
Andy Merchant by chance ?
The Large One
Who's Next?
Who he?
Gilliver's Travels
Peripatetic
That's the fella.
Opps .... Marchant .... I'm sure your memory can go back that far !
Rich Suvner
Skint years RIP
Frank Gehry masterpiece?
Really?
It was a watered down Gehry design to accommodate the standard commercial requirements of a largescale housing development.
With a very average leisure facility thrown in for residents.
Having seen the waves break over that arm over the last few weeks , there is no way i would want to live in any of the floors below 15 stories , and imagine the window cleaning bills , forever cleaning due to salt !
symyjym
Banned
Completely disagree, it's the housing and other developments included in leisure developments on council planning policies that create the problem.
There is always a percentage of affordable and unaffordable housing with mixed development that always ends up being the visual problem. A complete state of the art leisure centre would be welcome by the majority and would come under far less scrutiny.
Personally I think it is good to put a name to our sports development officer and to not think that it matters is one of the problems we have. Apathy!
The Large One
Who's Next?
Oh right. Not as far as I am aware.
symyjym
Banned
Could this someone change the development policy of the King Alfred?
Below is a link to the current requirements of the site.
http://present.brighton-hove.gov.uk/Published/C00000689/M00004685/AI00034861/$20130702095157_004445_0017302_Appendix1Specification.docA.ps.pdf
The Large One
Who's Next?
Ticklish.
It's not the role of the local authority to have a champion of this sort of thing.
While it might well sound great on the PR side of things, it wouldn't be long before you get to realise that it was a role without any function. About 12 seconds, I'd suggest, and 10 seconds of that is getting past the incredulity.
For a start, it would be a non-paid role. Secondly, in the context of this discussion (unless you're taking it to a wider remit), we're mostly talking about planning issues, so you'd need someone with some planning nous.
I don't disagree with having a 'sports champion' across the city - in fact, I think it's a good idea - but they need to function outside of council operations, while having the ear of the council, as well as the population at large, local business, transport groups, health and fitness organisations and so on. It's like asking a fan to be the fans' representative on the board at the Albion - that notion lends itself to all kinds of difficulties.
Then you'd need to ask - who would it be? Plus, as a near full-time role, someone would have to pay for it. If it was the council, they'd be beholden to fulfill council obligations.
symyjym
Banned
It also includes 450 residential units as part of the guidance.
symyjym
Banned
So the Commissioner for Sport and Leisure is just a pen pushing role with a glorified title?
Volks already goes there doesn't it? Or do you mean increase capacity (which I would agree with)?
The Large One
Who's Next?
It's quite a grandiose title for someone who implements the policy and guidance on recreation and holding outdoor events in the city. He is a council officer who has to work within the framework of the city's budgets and policies for recreation, reporting to the Culture, Recreation & Tourism team.
That's different to being a 'Champion of Sport' for the city.
symyjym
Banned
This maybe true, but they tend to spend all their time working on projects that fail, in fact all failure means to them is more work on the next failed project.
Failure and dragging things out always seems to be a good option for job security.
If we are claiming to be a city we need to have a sports centre to match.
symyjym
Banned
NSC should be a good platform for sport aspirations of the city, but it needs to be a thread that is sticky and does not fizzle out.
I personally feel very strongly about this city having a full size ice rink, 50m pool with diving facilities and children fun pool in one development.