A message to any BHA players who come on here...

[Superphil]

agreed, however they have a cast iron excuse......"well if I am good enough to play for Charlton ( as an example) I was surrounded by muppetts at Brighton , therefore it just didn't work out "

If you were their manager, or prospective new manager, would you accept that,or would you ask more questions? I imagine that most managers are a bit more savvy, and would want to find out more if that excuse was used. But I hear what you are saying, sadly, too many loanees have done for us I fear.

BTW, Superwife had a conversation with DK and criticised the amount of loanees we have had this season. He took the right hump, saying that he disagreed totally, and that the loan players were all as comitted as anyone to the team, and that he wouldn't take them on loan otherwise. Now I know that is what you would expect him to say, but he really was insensed about her comments.

[perhaps she should have stayed at home and made my tea]

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Thing is, in the end the players are in the shop window every time they go out and play. If they give every appearance of not giving a shit, then they'll sink slowly and surely down the leagues before realising what a good thing they were on at the Albion. It's in their own interests to look like they care. Shame some of them are too dumb to realise that.

 

[The Large One]

This 'caring' thing - are we talking collectively or individually?

Who (who is good enough) do you think cares, and who doesn't care- and who (who isn't good enough) do you think cares, and who doesn't care?

 

[Superphil]

I'm starting to wonder if I care

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I can't be bothered to go back and look for it...but the poster who stated Charlie Oatway would have somehow altered that result....please tell me how?

Would his comedy impressions have sent them out with a renewed level of vigour, I wonder?

I realise he's the Funniest Man In Football(c) but come on, that doesn't win you games or prizes.

 

[throbinson]

Yesterday was poor, have any of the players the guts to say sorry to the 400 odd fans that went, prob not, gutless and shamefull

 

[pasty]

I'm starting to wonder if I care

You are not alone.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

This 'caring' thing - are we talking collectively or individually?

Who (who is good enough) do you think cares, and who doesn't care- and who (who isn't good enough) do you think cares, and who doesn't care?

Some players have a natural competitive drive that appears to come from within themselves, irrespective of any outside influences. IMHO in recent seasons, the two players with the most of that stuff that spring to mind are Andrew Whing and, while he was here, Paul McShane. If we put out eleven players with the same attitude as either of those players, we'd over-achieve rather than under-achieve.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

My train ticket to Scunny is starting to look very, very expensive

 

[supaseagull]

thanks for the support...I just wanted to get across that it isn't a personal dig, but it comes from frustration that's built up over the course of the season.

We can all blame certain factors for the way that things have been this year, but the overriding sense from alot of fellow supporters, not just Albion fans, but from fans across the country is that as paying customers, we deserve a bit more and that for the price we pay to watch 90 minutes of football is no where near the value for money we should be getting.

Lets put it this way. If you go to a restaurant and something is under cooked or to your dislike then you can send it back or refuse to pay. Because you can't do that at a football match and thats why you can understand why football supporters become so aggrieved when their team underperforms.

Sportspeople and in particular footballers at the moment seems to have this general apathy toward the general public at a time when they really need to be appreciative that people, despite being very hard up, are STILL putting their hands in their pockets to support their local team and that's because they realise that if they don't then clubs like Grimsby, Rotherham & to an extent the Albion could end up going to the wall.

I didn't go to last nights game so I suppose that means I'm a hypocrite, but people I know did and they've said that they see more passion and commitment by 10 & 11 years olds on a Sunday morning than they did from the Albion players last night.

I really hope that someone from the club reads this thread because not all of us are on here for a slagging off of the players, but are passionate Albion fans who want to see more committment from the players - It's not alot to ask is it?

 

[Gilliver's Travels]

It's hard to see this honourable plea from the heart having any impact whatsoever. Hard though it might be for fans to take, the sad truth is that most professional footballers (and why should this club be any different?) do what they do entirely for themselves. It's just a job, like any other, and performed subject to a carefully-negotiated contract.

Unlike the fans - most of whom would be prepared to play for nothing, except that they'd be even more rubbish -- most players have no natural affinity for the club -- apart from the dwindling number of those born locally. So there's no feeling of moral obligation to the local area, less still to the fans. It is often said that the majority of professional players actually despise the fans, as a bunch of mugs.

Russell Slade is no doubt appalled by last night's lack of performance. But don't expect the present squad to be coming up any time soon with apologies and money back offers.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

We can all blame certain factors for the way that things have been this year, but the overriding sense from alot of fellow supporters, not just Albion fans, but from fans across the country is that as paying customers, we deserve a bit more and that for the price we pay to watch 90 minutes of football is no where near the value for money we should be getting.

Impossible to put any kind of meaningful 'value for money' tag on it IMHO. Maybe there's just too much Champions League football on nowadays and everybody expects their team to play at that level, irrespective of the realities. All you can really say is that it's a leisure pursuit, and you alone can decide if you're getting your money's worth or not. This recession will make a very large number of people focus on their financial priorities like maybe they never did before. Hopefully football clubs will be wise to that and a proper adjustment will be made before clubs start folding like a dodgy deck of cards.

 

[DIFFBROOK]

I hope its posted to Slade. Would at least help with his motivational talk

 

[clippedgull]

the players should be hung on the dressing room wall.

I will go along with that

 

[Sweeney Todd]

I was at the game and wanted to run onto the pitch thirty minutes into the game to tell the players what I thought of them.

How long before Albion fans direct the ultimate insult at their own players by singing "You're not fit to wear the shirt"?

 

[Insel affe]

The only way they can say sorry is to buckle down, get a result on saturday and go towards the fans at the end and clap those that make the effort.....that may start to build some faith back, but i fear its tooooo late and they know that.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I always remember harry Redknapp talking after moving from Pompey to Southampton....he basically said that fans should understand that managers and players are not "supporters" of a particular club, they are employees.

I think if you look at it that way, then it puts things in perspective

 

[Gary Leeds]

Employees can take pride in their work and im sorry if anyone can take pride in getting beaten week after week then they dont deserve to be in the job

 

[Sweeney Todd]

This season is starting to make our shambles of a campaign in 1986/87 look good.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Employees can take pride in their work and im sorry if anyone can take pride in getting beaten week after week then they dont deserve to be in the job

yes but at the end of the day, you are not going to come out and say that you are playing crap yourself, especially as these loanees are not even ours!

As i said earlier, being a loanee it is very easy to blame those around you....."well they were shite payers there anyway and going down...I tried my best but I was swallowed up by the mediocraty..."

You can see it happening