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[Albion] A list of everything that's wrong and who is to blame







Guinness Boy

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Why does someone need to be to blame? I’ve seen the Albion 45 minutes from no league football, it will get get better,it may get worse, why do JCLs always have to have someone to blame?


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I've seen us away in Northern shitholes when football was still quite dangerous to watch and the Albion took about 100 away (and no more than 1000 to London)

Who did you blame for us ending up 45 minutes from non-League? For me it was Bellotti, Archer and Stanley which is why we went on the pitch to protest against them with many of us getting banned. Were they not worth blaming?
 


Iggle Piggle

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Just one question

How shit does Maupay have to play to get dropped? He wasn't let near penalties because he misses the target from those. He put it out for a throw in - A ****ING THROW IN - with the best chance from open play and even the one chance he did create he miscontrolled it twice and handballed it.

He. Is. Shit. Utter shit.
 


Mo Gosfield

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This is the only list you need:

1. We need a decent striker.


We've been saying that for four years and it hasn't been addressed. We end up with players making their name in Holland, Switzerland or South Africa. In other words, complete gambles. The most important element in football and we can't get it right.
 


saafend_seagull

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Spunked £100m on attackers and all would struggle to cut it in the championship.

Burn a useless replacement.

Two massive fails not signing a left back and striker in the summer will see us deservedly relegated for not fixing a problem everyone could see.


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Springal

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We've been saying that for four years and it hasn't been addressed. We end up with players making their name in Holland, Switzerland or South Africa. In other words, complete gambles. The most important element in football and we can't get it right.

Literally every other club in the bottom half of the EPL has the same issue. It’s not an easy one to fix
 


raymondo

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We have an international leftback, we've just paid to cut short his loan. He played for the U23s last night.
If he isn't better than Burn at LB then God help us indeed.

...but GP doesn't seem to trust the new guys early on. I know it would be crazy to give them all a start at the same time, but at least give them a chance. I really think Maups for e.g. needs a break, for his own sake. And Karbo should be tried at left back. And Moder could be tried for half a game. SOMETHING needs freshening up otherwise the confidence may slowly drain.
 




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Re Free kick taker - you can’t pick one simply on that basis and Spanish Dave was and Knocy only scored them at Championship level as far as I can remember. Gross scored against Everton last season.

Re Connolly - you’re entitled to your opinion but the club and the player in particular clearly disagree. Connolly didn’t want to go on loan and Potter trusts him enough to start him. I think he’ll come good

Re Left Backs - agreed, but we predominantly go with five at the back. We do have a bona fide left back on Bernardo. It’s just unfortunate we loaned him and then March got injured immediately

Re performances - it is working, to a point. We’re on track to stay up. Everyone agrees we’re leaving points on the pitch but at we’ve been in every game. Only soundly beaten once this season. I’d stick with it and refine it because we are damn close to being the best dude we’ve ever had.

Re Potter. Been done to death. Goals are improved style of play, a philosophy, a pathway for the youngsters and development of the existing squad. Hard to argue that that he isn’t delivering on every point, just let down by our lack of composure in front of goal. It’s a six year project. I’m as frustrated as anyone this week but really enjoying the journey

Probably not one for a line by line dissection as I respect your views. I would say that Potter does not start Connolly enough to improve him. My suspicion is he enjoys being a PL squad player pulling a WAG way above his weight to only play now and again. If he wanted to improve he'd go somewhere where he could really learn his craft playing and scoring. But he might have to move out of his nice little bubble for that.

Moving Bernardo on is not unfortunate. It's very bad judgement unless we are going to play Karbownik - who's been relegated to the U23s and who, in any case, would be playing inverted.
 




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I've seen us away in Northern shitholes when football was still quite dangerous to watch and the Albion took about 100 away (and no more than 1000 to London)

Who did you blame for us ending up 45 minutes from non-League? For me it was Bellotti, Archer and Stanley which is why we went on the pitch to protest against them with many of us getting banned. Were they not worth blaming?

Football is football,ups and downs, it’s the beautiful game.
As in life you make your own luck. Not a big fan of blame.


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Football is football,ups and downs, it’s the beautiful game.
As in life you make your own luck. Not a big fan of blame.


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So we made our own luck in the mid to late 90s?
 


Barnet Seagull

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It's always something though, isn't it?

We'll have to learn how to defend set pieces. Well done children, you've got a B+. Let's move on. We'll have to learn how to create chances against a low block. Marvellous. A+. Now, let's work on them being good ones. Oh, whoops. B. And now, scoring them. Aggh. C- (perhaps the exam board won't notice). And so on......

This is Premier League football not Shoreham effing Academy.
Dont get me wrong, it's incredibly frustrating watching us at the moment. To suggest we arent learning though I think is a weak argument, similar to when people where criticising the coaching of one of the best coached Brighton teams I've ever seen.

Yes we let in a poor set piece but beyond that we again werent really troubled defensively despite not being at our best. We also did a reasonable job in open play, missing some good chances and winning a penalty.

Missing two penalties is shit, particularly in a game against a relegation rival. I cant explain our profligacy but i dont subscribe to us not learning, we are. We are not however executing well enough.
 


The Camel

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The problems, since Palace, have been well discussed on here. Today exposed even more. They say never play the blame game but I'm afraid it's time to, before we end up nice-passing our way to the Championship where we will have 90% possession and 40 shots a game and still not go back up. Whose fault are these? Recruitment? Coaching? Players? A.N. Other?

1) We have no penalty taker. Not one. At least CH always had a penalty taker. We seem not to have one in the squad let alone the starting XI.
2) We have no one who can hit a good free kick from around the box except Dunk, and he can only do it if allowed to take early. How many goals is Ward Prowse worth? Again CH knew the value of a set piece taker.
3) We still cannot defend set pieces against big sides
4) Connolly - not good enough. Should have been loaned.
5) No left back in the whole squad. Burn is not a left back.
6) Still taking the poor percentage shots from the wrong place. But maybe because.....
7) There isn't a player in the side who could finish a boiled egg
8) Performances prioritised over points. The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
9) Absolutely rotten luck. Terrible refereeing decisions almost constantly, both wingbacks out long term injured, a fixture list order that really doesn't suit us.


Every professional footballer, except keepers, should be at least competent at taking penalties. It is not difficult.
 




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Dont get me wrong, it's incredibly frustrating watching us at the moment. To suggest we arent learning though I think is a weak argument, similar to when people where criticising the coaching of one of the best coached Brighton teams I've ever seen.

Yes we let in a poor set piece but beyond that we again werent really troubled defensively despite not being at our best. We also did a reasonable job in open play, missing some good chances and winning a penalty.

Missing two penalties is shit, particularly in a game against a relegation rival. I cant explain our profligacy but i dont subscribe to us not learning, we are. We are not however executing well enough.

A perfectly reasonable reply. Cheers :thumbsup:

I think my biggest issue, that can be summed up as the sum total of my nine points, is that this is all so predictable and repeatable. We ALL know what is going to happen.

Maybe strip my OP down to " the definition of madness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result". That's really where I'm at.
 


Mo Gosfield

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Dont get me wrong, it's incredibly frustrating watching us at the moment. To suggest we arent learning though I think is a weak argument, similar to when people where criticising the coaching of one of the best coached Brighton teams I've ever seen.

Yes we let in a poor set piece but beyond that we again werent really troubled defensively despite not being at our best. We also did a reasonable job in open play, missing some good chances and winning a penalty.

Missing two penalties is shit, particularly in a game against a relegation rival. I cant explain our profligacy but i dont subscribe to us not learning, we are. We are not however executing well enough.


True. Their keeper had one real save to make the whole game.
 


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Every professional footballer, except keepers, should be at least competent at taking penalties. It is not difficult.

It's on another thread. But....

The xG for a penalty is 0.75 which means you score three quarters of them on average.

Our old mate Jedinak has a score of 100% out of 16 career penalties, representing the high point of that average.

Maupay is bang on the xG average. As a team we are way below.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/brighton-amp-hove-albion/elfmeterstatistik/verein/1237

Beyond that, what do we think made Jedinak (or Bruno Fernandes, for a current example) deadly from the spot? What makes Ward-Prowse or Beckham before him good at free kicks? It is NOT luck.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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I honestly have no idea why Potter prefers Burn over Karbownik. I've heard posters on this forum say Potter doesn't like to play inverted wingbacks, but not sure why and where that rumour has come from. Personally, Karbownik already looks a better player than Burn. But then again if it was me, I wouldn't be playing Maupay week in week out when he never looks like scoring, so I don't know what Potter's decision making is.

But he played March at right wing back at Anfield the other week, so he will obviously do it when he feels the game calls for it.
 




Skaville

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Probably not one for a line by line dissection as I respect your views. I would say that Potter does not start Connolly enough to improve him. My suspicion is he enjoys being a PL squad player pulling a WAG way above his weight to only play now and again. If he wanted to improve he'd go somewhere where he could really learn his craft playing and scoring. But he might have to move out of his nice little bubble for that.

Moving Bernardo on is not unfortunate. It's very bad judgement unless we are going to play Karbownik - who's been relegated to the U23s and who, in any case, would be playing inverted.

Wow, you’re showing immense disrespect to Aaron Connolly. I see him as a very hungry, determined young man. Could have taken the easy route last season and gone to the Championship but turned it down because he wanted a shot. He looks furious every time he comes off. He wants to play. He doesn’t hide. The insinuation that players like him are in it for money or WAG’s is just insulting. Too much too young? Maybe, but I don’t think it’s at all fair to question his motivation like that.

We have March, Burn and Karbownik for left back. Losing both March and Webster in four days has left us massively exposed at left back and left centre back, but a bit unforeseen given how few games they’d both missed. Karbownik will be ready soon. I can’t see it as anything other than bad luck. We had to trim the squad.
 


The Fits

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But he played March at right wing back at Anfield the other week, so he will obviously do it when he feels the game calls for it.

And he has played Alzate at LWB.
It's weird people suddenly thinking Potter wouldn't play a right footed player on the left, weirder still that he has played most of his professional career on the left.
 


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