A Hartlepool fan writes...

[Yorkie]

I didn't take it as a criticism but think that an opinion should be based on more than what you think it takes to be a good player.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Ive spoken to Tommy a few times and know his Mother. He isn't at all cocky.

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[British Bulldog]

but think that an opinion should be based on more than what you think

Did you think that through?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I didn't take it as a criticism but think that an opinion should be based on more than what you think it takes to be a good player.

I already stated from what I had seen of him. He has successfully goaded a few players into submission (Hubertz etc.) and has motioned to the South Stand on numerous occasions to 'raise the roof'. I am going by what is seen of him on the pitch, which is how it should be done. As in Tommy Elphick the player.

 

[Yorkie]

Did you think that through?

to the end of the sentence yes, but quoting it out of context trying to get a laugh doesn't.

 

[British Bulldog]

to the end of the sentence yes, but quoting it out of context trying to get a laugh doesn't.

Sense of humour bypass eh? Nice signature by the way Yorkie, very apt.

 

[Yorkie]

Sense of humour bypass eh? Nice signature by the way Yorkie, very apt.

Indeed

 

[British Bulldog]

Indeed

Confucius say " woman with tongue in cheek no need toilet paper "

 

[saltash seagull]

I already stated from what I had seen of him. He has successfully goaded a few players into submission (Hubertz etc.) and has motioned to the South Stand on numerous occasions to 'raise the roof'. I am going by what is seen of him on the pitch, which is how it should be done. As in Tommy Elphick the player.

he doesnt really come across as shy and reitring does he

think you have got to have a certain something about you to make it in the game as a young kid now though

i use to have stands in churchill square the squidgy cuisions (before the isreal maffia) and the old arcade games,remember the day of the 2nd falmer march had elphick and fraser there messing around on my stand (dont think they realised i knew who they were) certainly gave my the impression they were a cocky pair even then.coxy has quite reguarly been there playing the games and he wasn't short of confidence either.

Not that it's a bad thing,like the passion and confidence that elphicks got that will help him make it to the top and im sure he didn't mean anything in the heat of the moment on saturday

 

[Yorkie]

Confidence is different from cocky.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

Confidence is different from cocky.

However, there is a very thin line between them

 

[Yorkie]

However, there is a very thin line between them

I agree. Some would say Coxy is cocky.

 

[saltash seagull]

there is a very thin line

i think coxy has both and that shows on the pitch but thats not a bad thing

 

[Man of Harveys]

Ive spoken to Tommy a few times and know his Mother. He isn't at all cocky.

That's a real shame - I think it's always good for young players to have a bit of cock about them. Wouldn't you feel a bit better with a bit more cock on board?

 

[severnside gull]

suspect Elphick was on the dirty end of some verbals from Barker during the game and especially when he scored the penalty - fair enough it's what pretty well any sporting contest involves. However "heat of the moment" his response may have been it was undoubtably disrespectful and merits a bollocking from his gaffer and his team mates - good to see him being dragged down the tunnel afterwards to keep him away from further bother though

 

[Buzzer]

That's a real shame - I think it's always good for young players to have a bit of cock about them. Wouldn't you feel a bit better with a bit more cock on board?

Not the only Tiny Cox in the team, eh MoH?

 

[eastlondonseagull]

This is an article from The Northern Echo:-

Pools emotions exploited by Seagulls gamesmanship
By Nick Loughlin

Hartlepool United 1 Brighton and Hove Albion 2

ON a day when feelings were running high at Victoria Park, emotions spilled
over.

And Danny Wilson believes his Hartlepool United players showed great restraint
in the face of some crass and unsavoury Brighton actions. It would be wrong to
call them celebrations - the mark had been overstepped.

After Richard Barker's 86th minute penalty looked like securing a point, a goal
towards the end of four minutes of stoppage time turned the game back in the
visitors' favour.

Coming at the end of the most difficult weeks for all concerned, it was hard to
take.

And when a Brighton defender thought it would be clever to goad Barker after the
decisive goal, it was too much to take.

It was at best immature and thoughtless, and at worst, disrespectful and utterly
ignorant.

Following an immaculate and poignant minute's silence in memory of team-mate
Michael Maidens prior to the game, the Pools players were heading for a
relatively satisfactory conclusion to the day with Barker's penalty.

In the end, both the game and the classless opponents conspired against events.

"There was absolutely no need for it (the Brighton reaction),'' said Wilson.
"They had won the game which was fair enough. They took their chance very well
and you have to take it on the chin.

"But the last thing you want is to have your noses rubbed in it. Whether you
respond to that it is very difficult.

"But it shouldn't be shoved in your face like it was so I can understand
Richie's anger and I still say that he showed tremendous restraint.''

Tempers also frayed at the break as the players headed for the dressing rooms,
but with the final whistle - one of the few decisive shrills all afternoon from
referee Jonathan Moss - blowing shortly afterwards, came a melee and the anger
and hurt of the last seven days came to the fore.

There's every chance the FA will investigate.

Pools could have taken a defeat, they were behind for the majority of the game,
but not the manner in which it arrived.

Bas Savage, with the same sort of erratic ability as Marcus Richardson and
considered by Wilson as a potential signing last season, rode a couple of
challenges, got a couple of fortunate deflections and curled a low shot into the
net.

Substitute Michael Mackay has a welcome habit of scoring after arriving as a
substitute and he was within an inch of managing it again.

After Barker's leveller, Mackay slid in to meet a teasing low cross. A touch,
any sort of touch, would have diverted in a winner, but the ball evaded him.
Within seconds, at the other end, Pools were hit by a Savage blow.

Wilson said: "It was a poor goal to lose the second one, because we were quite
tight at the back at that time with a full four, but we missed two tackles and
got punished for it.''

Pools were also punished right on half-time, when Willie Boland was sent-off.

Tempers had been bubbling in the 15 minutes before the break. Jamie McCunnie
tackled right back Andrew Whing on the touchline and Whing whinged at referee
Moss, rolling his sock down to show his apparent wound like a little boy showing
Mummy his grazed leg after falling from the swings.

Whing was fired up, but managed to keep his head and he wasn't booked until the
75th minute.

Boland, though, wasn't quite as regulated.

After tangling with Dean Cox, the midfielder took the bait on offer and kicked
out at the winger. Right in front of the officials, it was a futile gesture from
Boland, one of the more fiercely combative - and it has to be said disciplined -
individuals in the game.

Not on this occasion, however and Wilson admitted: "Willie deserved it. You can
go round kicking people and Willie knows that. He let himself down and he his
fellow players down.

"There was no need for it. He had to show more restraint. Maybe he was provoked
before but you have to rise above that.

"He fell into the trap. If he has got a problem with things like that then if I
was an opposing manager I would try to wind him up as well if there was a chance
he would get himself sent off.

"He has to have a calming influence from within and not to rise to the bait.''

Pools, with some of their players clearly affected by the moving pre-match
tribute, went behind when Cox crossed from the right and Ben Clark steered his
header the wrong way and into his own net.

Wilson's side had plenty of possession and played some neat football, but failed
to test keeper Michael Kuipers and the first shot he was presented with was
Barker's penalty, awarded after defender Tommy Elphick made a flying save to
keep out Andy Monkhouse's shot.

The second half, ten against 11, was sheer gung-ho football. Pools attacked
regularly, with the visitors playing on the counter attack and proving a threat
with their attacks at pace.

In the end, it was that nature of the game which caught Pools out and brought
the dramatic scenes.

Wilson concluded: "Of course emotions were running high. But it was not just
things off the field, it was on the field as well.

"It was a roller coaster type of game, we went from high to low and it was
difficult to lose a goal so late.

"But putting things in perspective, it was a great effort from the lads in
difficult circumstances.

"They have had to deal with what has happened this week and then try to put a
performance in.

"They showed terrific character, particularly in the second half, and I was just
gutted for them that we could not even come away with a draw.''

What an utter load of gash


.

 

[CHAPPERS]

What a bunch of whinging ****s. Their player gets sent off for kicking out at Cox and they moan about something Elphick may or may not have said and Savage celebrating a goal which happened to win the game in the last minute.

Load of shit.

We won a difficult away game, let's get on with it.

 

[Silent Bob]

Barker slams Elphick reaction

Hartlepool striker Richard Barker has accused Brighton's Tommy Elphick of being "unprofessional and inhumane" after the pair's recent clash.

Barker and Elphick exchanged words after the Seagulls grabbed a last-minute goal to claim a 2-1 win in Pool's first game since the death of Michael Maidens, but Barker did clear his opponent of showing disrespect.

Both teams wore armbands as a mark of respect for Maidens, who was killed in a car crash recently, and Barker celebrated scoring a penalty by kissing his armband.

He told the club's official website: "What I reacted to was something that was said when the goal went in and he came over and said things in an unprofessional and inhumane-like way. But I never accused him of disrespect to his armband and that's nothing that caused the argument. I never saw him do anything like that.

"It was just disappointing from my point of view. We've all scored goals in the 90th minute and to react the way he did I felt was poor.

"But as far as I'm concerned now the game's finished. There's a line drawn under it and I was just disappointed by the way it was handled really."




Sounds like it was just verbals then, which got blown out of proportion because of the emotion of the day.

 

[CHAPPERS]

So Barker, a seasoned pro, was probably giving it all afternoon to Elphick but couldn't handle it when Elphick gave it back then.

What a pussy.