8 defeats out of 11 league games at home

[SICKASAGULL]

Spot on Jamie!

 

[brighton bluenose]

So by your recogning, if a team plays well for 20 minutes, that is all they need to do to win? a game lasts 90 minutes, if we had turned the result around last night and won (which we looked like we might do) would you just be moaning about the 20 minutes and conceeding 2 goals, or the 70 minutes we were better than them and won?

they outplayed us for 20 minutes and got 2 goals so by your logic, we outplayed them for 70 minutes and should have had 7? when was the last time you can recall when we had put the opposition under sustained pressure at home?
secondly, we were 2 down but our heads didn't drop, they didn't accept defeat but worked extremely hard to try to get something from the game and were very unlucky not to, we deserved something from it.

You have chosen a bad game to use as your basis for your moan, after all any team can play well, be unlucky and lose and we did yesterday

What a strange comment!!

As the thread title says thats the EIGHTH home defeat in ELEVEN games FFS!!

 

[Guy Fawkes]

What a strange comment!!

As the thread title says thats the EIGHTH home defeat in ELEVEN games FFS!!

And if you read the posts of the person i was aiming the response at, you would see that they were referring to the last game saying that we deserved to lose because of the first 20 minutes play. My comments in reply were that we were poor for those 20 minutes, but then outplayed them for 70 minutes, and by doing so you'd hope (and deserve in this case) to get at least a point from the game

strange you don't pull anyone else up on their comments that refer just to the Colchester game, or do you think we have lost them all in the 1st 20 minutes then played well?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

What I can't understand is why Slade & now Poyet do not play 5 at the back? Say a 5-3-2 formation. I know it is a little defensive, especially at home. However, we have been leaking goals all season & playing with inexperience goalies.

The whole defence are not up to the job, we all know that. None of them will be playing in the championship I suspect, however a more compact defence with more bodies may help.

So why won't the manager at least try such a formation against any club in the top half of the table? A 4-4-2 formation at Swindon and I can only see a 3-0 defeat

I feel that the current formation will begin to bring wins at home and we don't need to play so defensively, fans want to see us going forward to try to score which we look more than capable of doing (1st time in many seasons we can say that)

This season has been a strange one so far, and this his made things appear worse in terms of results than things actually are, we had an ever changing defensive line up under Slade, but it wasn't his choice to have that, rather a case of unfortunate injuries and suspensions unsettling things.

The team is finally starting to have a settled feel about it, and despite playing the top sides, i feel we have started to give a good account of ourselves and started to bond as a unit on the pitch which can only be a good thing.

I predict that between now and the end of the season we will win more games at home than we draw or lose combined

 

[Peter Grummit]

I think 3-5-2 is worth trying.
We have the perfect players for wingbacks (McNulty and Bennett) and it would allow Cox to play in the hole behind the front 2 where he has had success before. We need at at least 1 more CB in January but I would play ElAbd, Elphick, Tunni for now.

Team v Swindon
Kuipers (if fit)
ElAbd Elphick Tunnicliffe
Bennett Crofts Cox Dicker McNulty
Forster Murray
PG

 

[Steve Foster]

I think 3-5-2 is worth trying.
We have the perfect players for wingbacks (McNulty and Bennett) and it would allow Cox to play in the hole behind the front 2 where he has had success before. We need at at least 1 more CB in January but I would play ElAbd, Elphick, Tunni for now.

Team v Swindon
Kuipers (if fit)
ElAbd Elphick Tunnicliffe
Bennett Crofts Cox Dicker McNulty
Forster Murray
PG

I quite like this formation. It would I suppose be a little more attacking than a 5-3-2 formation, that I would suggest we play away. At least until we get some more points on the table & climb the league. I think that if we play a 4-4-2 formation at Swindon then we won't get anything. We could be adrift after that game.

See that Middlesborough have just lost at home. 6th in their last 8 games & a record low attendance too! We are not alone

 

[brighton bluenose]

And if you read the posts of the person i was aiming the response at, you would see that they were referring to the last game saying that we deserved to lose because of the first 20 minutes play. My comments in reply were that we were poor for those 20 minutes, but then outplayed them for 70 minutes, and by doing so you'd hope (and deserve in this case) to get at least a point from the game

strange you don't pull anyone else up on their comments that refer just to the Colchester game, or do you think we have lost them all in the 1st 20 minutes then played well?

Barnham Seagulls point was that we always seem to get off to a slow start, Colchester had sussed this and exploited our weakness - I cant see anything wrong with that analysis!

Your reply going on about 7 goals in 70 mins etc etc was, with respect, largely gibberish and the bit I highlighted about you saying it being a bad game for him to moan about is totally wrong - as you say yourself the game lasts 90 minutes not the 70 that we player well in!!!

Saying that though doesn't mean there were no positives to take from the performance and it was an entertaining gamw.

 

[BensGrandad]

I think 3-5-2 is worth trying.
We have the perfect players for wingbacks (McNulty and Bennett) and it would allow Cox to play in the hole behind the front 2 where he has had success before. We need at at least 1 more CB in January but I would play ElAbd, Elphick, Tunni for now.

Team v Swindon
Kuipers (if fit)
ElAbd Elphick Tunnicliffe
Bennett Crofts Cox Dicker McNulty
Forster Murray
PG

I would not wish to see that formation as our problems are conceeding goals and I don think that formation would help. I would rather see a straight back four with El Abd or similar sitting just in front of them to break up play and stop their midfielders picking up loose balls just outside of our area.

 

[Steve Foster]

I would not wish to see that formation as our problems are conceeding goals and I don think that formation would help. I would rather see a straight back four with El Abd or similar sitting just in front of them to break up play and stop their midfielders picking up loose balls just outside of our area.

Would this be a 4-1-3-2 formation or the diamond approach?

 

[NS Herald]

Maybe but back to the original thread. 8 defeats out of 11 at home, is utterly appalling. It's great that a number of posters can still be positive & apologetic on behalf of our players!

And losing 19 home games out of 34 since the beginning of last season is soddin ridiclous.

When are people on here going to wake up and see what is happening? We've lost 73% of our home games this season and the thing which really upset me on Friday was all the pre match bollox of the benefit of the team having a week to train together and then not one of the idiots bothered to make any impression in the first 20 minutes.

It was as un-professional as you can possibly get and to think we made up for it with an heroic effort at a fight back is missing the point.

1 - they shouldn't have had to fight back and
2 - they were not successful in the fight back with some shocking misses and 1 decent save by their keeper

How can anyone excuse the first 20 minutes and then think the next 70 makes up for it is beyond me. If you employ anyone to do a job within a set timescale and they laze around at the start and then fail to make the deadline - they would be sacked or docked money.

Our players need to recognise they have failed us too many times and their attitude in the first 20 minutes means we should be entitled to a refund of some sort - and that refund should come from them which would perhaps make them sit up and actually try for 90 minutes.

Yee gods I don't mind losing and I like entertainment if we do lose but the alarming regularity it is now happening is crazy.

You can't blame Slade or Poyet for some of what the players get up to and those people who represent OUR team should sort themselves out and try with real effort and determination for 90 minutes or they can f*ck off.

For the love of all things BHA, too many people are getting suckered into spin from around the club and people should concentrate on facts which include how many games we lose at home and where we are in this league. F*ck the entertainment, oh weren't we unlucky etc. etc. - buy a DVD of the first 20 minutes and look at the table - hit them in the pocket and see if it makes a difference.

 

[Storer68]

Gus Poyet's managerial career

Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn
Brighton 10-11-2009 Present 8 4 4 0

Adrian Boothroyd's managerial career

Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn
Colchester 02-09-2009 Present 18 10 2 6


so a 2-1 defeat hardly unexpected

but Boxing Day looks an important game to compare ourselves by.
Geraint Williams's managerial career

Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn
Leyton Orient 05-02-2009 Present 44 17 18 9

 

[crodonilson]

Colchester are a tough physical side to play against, their first goal was a sublime strike and you can't really do a lot about things like that happening, after that we were excellent and bossed the game, on another day we'd have won convincingly and if we play like that at home for the rest of the season we'll win a lot more than we'll lose.

 

[Storer68]

but we are playing like that and we are LOSING more than we are winning!

 

[Spiros]

Colchester are a tough physical side to play against, their first goal was a sublime strike and you can't really do a lot about things like that happening, after that we were excellent and bossed the game, on another day we'd have won convincingly and if we play like that at home for the rest of the season we'll win a lot more than we'll lose.

Bang on. I didn't think the first goal was bad defending, just a quality strike. The second goal WAS crap defending but also we were down to 10 men at the time and the cross came as a direct result of us not having sorted out who was supposed to be filling in for El Abd. Once we were back to 11 we bossed the game to such an extent that they were time wasting with half an hour to go.