[News] 5 Live past and present.

[n1 gull]

Emma Barnett is awful. She's forever going for the gotcha question. I can't listen to her and I used to like 5Live in the morning.
I'm really looking forward to Times radio as hopefully they won't be so dumbed down.

Nihal in the afternoon, well I think everyone has said what needs to be said..

 

[Mackenzie]

When Nihal Arthanayake is on I turn over, I just can't stand the tone of his voice.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Nicky Campbell is undoubtedly a hugely talented broadcaster but his huge ego is legendary and unfortunately comes over on the radio. He somehow always seems to make himself or his personal experiences the focal point of whatever story is being covered. Or if he can't shoehorn something about himself, then his dogs will do just as well. Not in itself a fatal problem but because he tends to co-host, it clearly comes across on the airwaves how deferential his hapless co-hosts are, lest they upset the mighty Campbell. For me, this makes awkward, uncomfortable listening as fellow presenters walk on egg shells and dare not correct or interupt him. Which is a shame as I feel Rachel Burden to actually be a better informed, more engaging and warmer presenter.

Sorry I'm not going out of my way to pick on you today, but his co-cost is actually now his close friend, and the families socialise. We're not talking Keith Floyd here. I get the impression Campbell is well liked.

Campbell uses the public personality he has cultivated to undermine the more gammony interviewees, and some of his piss taking will go right over the heads of the sort of people I put on ignore on NSC

Maybe I like much of R5 because it is part of my left-wing echo chamber in much the same way Talk Sport and Channel 5 (and to be honest, ITV and radios 1, 2, 4 and 6) aren't

 

[Bry Nylon]

Sorry I'm not going out of my way to pick on you today, but his co-cost is actually now his close friend, and the families socialise. We're not talking Keith Floyd here. I get the impression Campbell is well liked.

Interestingly, I have heard the exact opposite. Anyway, all credit to Rachel Burden as Nicky Campbell has a somewhat chequered track record when it comes to working with female co-presenters.

This is from the Guardian around the time of Fee Glover's sudden and surprise decision to leave the station:

Her [Fee Glover's] private life spilled into the press last month following an on-air spat between Campbell and Derbyshire, and then Campbell and Glover.

Derbyshire broke off reading a news bulletin and fled the studio in tears after reportedly falling out with Campbell over an interview she had just conducted with the home secretary, David Blunkett.

The next day, when Glover made a joke about the incident, Campbell asked her whether she was feeling "emotional".

Glover, who was sniffing because of a cold, replied: "I hope you're not going to reduce another woman to tears."

Campbell asked her to retract the statement. "You shouldn't believe everything you read in the Daily Mail. You of all people should know that," he said, referring to the Mail's previous accounts of the private lives of Glover and Derbyshire.

Derbyshire's partner Sandell, Glover's ex-husband, used to edit Campbell's programme when he hosted the phone-in and still works at the station.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Interestingly, I have heard the exact opposite. Anyway, all credit to Rachel Burden as Nicky Campbell has a somewhat chequered track record when it comes to working with female co-presenters.

This is from the Guardian around the time of Fee Glover's sudden and surprise decision to leave the station:

Her [Fee Glover's] private life spilled into the press last month following an on-air spat between Campbell and Derbyshire, and then Campbell and Glover.

Derbyshire broke off reading a news bulletin and fled the studio in tears after reportedly falling out with Campbell over an interview she had just conducted with the home secretary, David Blunkett.

The next day, when Glover made a joke about the incident, Campbell asked her whether she was feeling "emotional".

Glover, who was sniffing because of a cold, replied: "I hope you're not going to reduce another woman to tears."

Campbell asked her to retract the statement. "You shouldn't believe everything you read in the Daily Mail. You of all people should know that," he said, referring to the Mail's previous accounts of the private lives of Glover and Derbyshire.

Derbyshire's partner Sandell, Glover's ex-husband, used to edit Campbell's programme when he hosted the phone-in and still works at the station.

Interesting. I'll have a little dig around.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Sorry I'm not going out of my way to pick on you today, but his co-cost is actually now his close friend, and the families socialise. We're not talking Keith Floyd here. I get the impression Campbell is well liked.

Campbell uses the public personality he has cultivated to undermine the more gammony interviewees, and some of his piss taking will go right over the heads of the sort of people I put on ignore on NSC

Maybe I like much of R5 because it is part of my left-wing echo chamber in much the same way Talk Sport and Channel 5 (and to be honest, ITV and radios 1, 2, 4 and 6) aren't

Harry you left wing then?

 

[Weststander]

I love the work and radio manner of Nicky Campbell and Tony Livesey. Campbell also has passionate views on wildlife, animal welfare and the environment …. a man after my own heart. Livesey is a genuinely very kind and compassionate fella, always positive, with his passion for Joy Division and tons of late 70's/early 80's music … always a winner with me. Rachel Burden is also very good.

Peter Allen was a class act, I was gutted when he left Drive.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Interestingly, I have heard the exact opposite. Anyway, all credit to Rachel Burden as Nicky Campbell has a somewhat chequered track record when it comes to working with female co-presenters.

This is from the Guardian around the time of Fee Glover's sudden and surprise decision to leave the station:

Her [Fee Glover's] private life spilled into the press last month following an on-air spat between Campbell and Derbyshire, and then Campbell and Glover.

Derbyshire broke off reading a news bulletin and fled the studio in tears after reportedly falling out with Campbell over an interview she had just conducted with the home secretary, David Blunkett.

The next day, when Glover made a joke about the incident, Campbell asked her whether she was feeling "emotional".

Glover, who was sniffing because of a cold, replied: "I hope you're not going to reduce another woman to tears."

Campbell asked her to retract the statement. "You shouldn't believe everything you read in the Daily Mail. You of all people should know that," he said, referring to the Mail's previous accounts of the private lives of Glover and Derbyshire.

Derbyshire's partner Sandell, Glover's ex-husband, used to edit Campbell's programme when he hosted the phone-in and still works at the station.

It took me a while to find.....April 2003. Two colleagues had had a disagreement and one of them had cried. I see no evidence that Campbell is a bully, if that's the implication. Could be argued that Glover was out of order sticking her oar in.

I do recall Campbell was accused of fabricating a biological family history of ancestry in the IRA. I had a look for that and it seems ambiguous. His www footprint seems to be remarkable clean.

I recall about 10 years ago a colleague new to a committee got on his high horse over an issue the committee had examined in great depth in the past, and dealt with, but he wanted to go through it all again, bringing his 'new insights' (they weren't), and wouldn't let it go, even though we had other important matters to deal with and a limited amount of time available. I eventually told him to pipe down as we had been through it all before and there was no point reinventing the wheel. I sounded exasperated, which I was. He later told me that 'it could be construed that I bullied him'. WTF?

Now cross out the 'he' and the 'him' replace with 'she' and 'her' and read all that again. Ah! It was a woman.....sexist bullying! It wasn't, and I rather resented the implication. I later got an apology for a moment of 'emotionality' (her words not mine). I ended up telling her it wasn't appropriate to dismiss her own feelings as emotionality. A very peculiar episode altogether.

Fortunately, unlike Campbell's, my incident hasn't been immortalised, with commentary and analysis by Germaine Greer, Meghan Markle and Piers Morgan, on the www.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Harry you left wing then?

Not according to Ernest (who I have on ignore)

 

[Stat Brother]

Anyone who made Victoria Derbyshire cry is fine by me.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Fortunately, unlike Campbell's, my incident hasn't been immortalised....on the www.

Well it has now, you silly old Tackle, you.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well it has now, you silly old Tackle, you.

Damn!

 

[vegster]

Emma Barnett is awful. She's forever going for the gotcha question. I can't listen to her and I used to like 5Live in the morning.
I'm really looking forward to Times radio as hopefully they won't be so dumbed down.

Nihal in the afternoon, well I think everyone has said what needs to be said..

I'm not sure if Times Radio will find a niche if and when it starts. I can fully understand its existance, print media is moving online and losing lots of advertising revenue.

 

[ewe2]

5 live for me was excellent.......I feel a bit by passed now with old guard cull. Perhaps what I need is radio 4 1\2 .......

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I'm not sure if Times Radio will find a niche if and when it starts. I can fully understand its existance, print media is moving online and losing lots of advertising revenue.

I'm hoping I can see what they are aiming at.

1. R5L is a bit wokey lefty now. I'm more left than right but I often reach for the off button.
2. Talksport is Should - insert member of Big six - sack thier manager after a weekend defeat. Listening to it is like that dirty feeling you have after eating a bag of chip shop chips.
3. LBC and Talk radio hit the opposite end of the R5L spectrum designed for the 'Send the buggers back' brigade.

I'm hoping Times radio will be somewhere between the options available. That said, I'm preparing to be dissapointed when the first phone in is 'Is Boris the best Prime minister ever?

 

[vegster]

I'm hoping I can see what they are aiming at.

1. R5L is a bit wokey lefty now. I'm more left than right but I often reach for the off button.
2. Talksport is Should - insert member of Big six - sack thier manager after a weekend defeat. Listening to it is like that dirty feeling you have after eating a bag of chip shop chips.
3. LBC and Talk radio hit the opposite end of the R5L spectrum designed for the 'Send the buggers back' brigade.

I'm hoping Times radio will be somewhere between the options available. That said, I'm preparing to be dissapointed when the first phone in is 'Is Boris the best Prime minister ever?

Hard to know for sure but I'm willing to bet it will have the same slant as it's master, the Dirty Digger. I would say also that LBC does swing very right to left across its range of presenters, Ferrari, is very much Tory, O'Brien is anti Tory but not necessarily left wing, Shelag Fogarty is very on the fence, Eddie Mair I never listen to and then you have Nigel Farage....

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Hard to know for sure but I'm willing to bet it will have the same slant as it's master, the Dirty Digger. I would say also that LBC does swing very right to left across its range of presenters, Ferrari, is very much Tory, O'Brien is anti Tory but not necessarily left wing, Shelag Fogarty is very on the fence, Eddie Mair I never listen to and then you have Nigel Farage....

I admit I'm generalising. Was listening to Danny Kelly and Simon Jordon on TS before tea and it was intelligent and informed. Tottenham lending money off the government, contracts in a post covid world and a slagging off of FIFA. Generally though, the Jim Whites of this world have taken over for the click bait phone in (I only switched to TS after being exasperated with R5L telling me how racist I am simply for being white)

Like most radio stations, I'm hoping there is at least one set of shows or presenters I'll get on with and can podcast it.

 

[Weststander]

I'm hoping I can see what they are aiming at.

1. R5L is a bit wokey lefty now. I'm more left than right but I often reach for the off button.
2. Talksport is Should - insert member of Big six - sack thier manager after a weekend defeat. Listening to it is like that dirty feeling you have after eating a bag of chip shop chips.
3. LBC and Talk radio hit the opposite end of the R5L spectrum designed for the 'Send the buggers back' brigade.

I'm hoping Times radio will be somewhere between the options available. That said, I'm preparing to be dissapointed when the first phone in is 'Is Boris the best Prime minister ever?

I’m more ‘right of centre’ than you, over the years a floating voter, but I don’t find R5 leftist at all. For every interview putting a Tory on trial, I hear pretty aggressive interviewing of Labour or Remain figures. EB recently took apart a Labour councillor from Bury who had manipulated primary schools remaining closed ... because he’d lied, continued to lie, she did a deft job. The next article probably picked on the government.

The BBC in general was very much Remain, something (arch Remainer) John Humphries laid bare after his retirement. Some presenters such as Nihal couldn’t contain their bias, but he for example has mellowed.

 

[Brightonfan1983]

Come on folks, someone should have removed this discussion from the BLM's thread hours ago.

Anyhoo here it is so crack on...





Peter Allen was a giant among men.

Peter Allen and Jane Garvey's drivetime show was unmissable back in the day. It was peak "chemistry between presenters". I adored it and mourn it.

Preceded daily by Simon Mayo's show, and I can remember my stomach's hollowness when he said he was leaving. Once when he had Kermode on, someone emailed in wondering what Mark thought of the film "Blairzac Hunt" (I spell it as I heard it), which they dealt with almost seamlessly. Wonderful times!

Danny Baker once railed against radio presenters who announced that their shows relied on the listeners, as in: "It's all about you and your calls"; sod that. I do pine for the times when we weren't subjected to what Dave from Huddersfield reckons.

I'm a fully paid-up R4 listener now. Age, I think, coincided with change.

 

[Stat Brother]

Peter Allen and Jane Garvey's drivetime show was unmissable back in the day. It was peak "chemistry between presenters". I adored it and mourn it.

Preceded daily by Simon Mayo's show, and I can remember my stomach's hollowness when he said he was leaving. Once when he had Kermode on, someone emailed in wondering what Mark thought of the film "Blairzac Hunt" (I spell it as I heard it), which they dealt with almost seamlessly. Wonderful times!

Danny Baker once railed against radio presenters who announced that their shows relied on the listeners, as in: "It's all about you and your calls"; sod that. I do pine for the times when we weren't subjected to what Dave from Huddersfield reckons.

I remember a local Councillor once appearing on the show and clearly had no idea who she was dealing with.
I remember it as a bit of a fluff piece, but with an edge, maybe an accident in her ward or something.

She got a bit uppity and very political with Peter.
I stopped what I was doing.
Peter remained unnervingly calm.
I sat down.
She decided to double down and launched into Peter saying he didn't know x, y & z. (It really wasn't that sort of piece)
I turned to stare at the radio.

What came next was a complete evisceration of this woman.
He absolutely destroyed her and everything she said.


T'was glorious!