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portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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I dont think that telling a bunch of saints fans to f off is quite the same as driving whilst on the phone no body in the stand is going to die whilst ..... you get my drift

I do, but nobody dies dropping litter (unless it's a bomb) either. Still a law, with a penalty of up to £1000. You get my drift... :)
 






Nov 9, 2011
51
any football home and away

Im afraid that anybody stepping out of line in or around football is going to get the full force of the law especially in Brighton a Barrister told me that Judges have been instructed to make examples of any bad behavior that is football related . Its because there is not that much trouble down here and they want to keep it that way. last week all the spurs lads who were charged after the Aberdeen game pleaded not guilty ,come court day no witnesses turned up and they were free to go .However all the brighton lads were told to plead guilty so many of them will go to jail on first offences because its footgall related Im not condoneing there action for one minute iits the sentencing that is out of proportion compared with nonces and muggers . Im sure Rupert Murdoch has had a hand in this as a caviate to all the money he has put in to english football and putting preasure on who ever the gov of the day to crack down on those spoling his product in return for favourable press in his rags

Excellent well informed post. This the reality. If you are caught with child pornography then you get an 18 month suspended sentence. Exchange punches with a more than willing opponent at football and you could find yourself serving a 2 stretch. Not condoning it one way or the other but it should be in proportion. The law will say the harsh sentences are a deterrent - which is all well and good, but don't they want to deter nonces? It sickens me that a fully fledged pedo can live anonymously next door to a family but the police and cps go all out to secure convictions against people who like a bit of argy bargy at football.
 


Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
I dont think that telling a bunch of saints fans to f off is quite the same as driving whilst on the phone no body in the stand is going to die whilst ..... you get my drift
Probably would have got away with the F word, but I find the C word unacceptable too. Shame is, people feel they can say what they like wherever they like now and sometimes they get it wrong. Bit like insisting on standing in seating areas which I don't find acceptable either. Mind you, 3 years is a bit much really.
 


_mark_

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Aug 24, 2011
220
The following report may enlighten you as to the meaning of a well used word.


The word "****" nowadays is used in many different ways. It is actually derived from an ancient Roman word "cuntties" and was first heard uttered by Julius Cesar on the famous marble steps..."Ahhg!! I've been stabbed in the back by a bunch of cunttes !!!"


However it was another thousand years before it was heard again...strangely enough in England...by which time it had been shortened .Records show that during the Battle of Hastings King Harold was distinctly heard to exclaim - Forsooth!..I fear the battle is lost!! some **** has shot me in the eye!!" (it is rumoured...although there is little evidence available to substantiate it...that the word was then used again in a completely different context as one of his aides was heard to shout "Gadzooks Sire!!..it will be a **** of a job pulling that out!!")


Shortly after it became part of the English language (possibly due to its Royal connection)...and found it's way into the dictionary where it seems to have two basic meanings....



1.(noun) The outer female organ; The vagina
2.(noun) A very unpleasant or stupid person.


The first meaning is needs no clarification...but the second could leave one a little confused...so to help you spot, and hopefully avoid, number 2...the following examples may be of some assistance to you:

The bloke with the big bushy beard, thick woollen polar neck jersey, and pint of real ale (usually tapping his foot to some noisy bloody jazz band).....is a ****.


The bloke who rattles his pipe from one side of his mouth to the other then talks with it gripped between his yellow teeth convinced that he is "Mr Contentment"....is a ****


Short arsed stubby blokes (who only seem to appear in the summer) with big guts, knee length baggy shorts ,football shirts and huge trainers...and walk around under the misapprehension that they look mildly athletic instead of out-of-shape twats...are *****.


Leo Sayer is a ****


The bloke who reaches 40 - realises he is going nowhere so decides to take the character route to try to get noticed, by growing a big beard or bushy sideburns and a handlebar moustache...gets a pocket watch and turns into Dr. Watson...coming out with stuff like "That meal I had last night was most agreeable..."....is a ****


George Best was and Ainslie Harriet is...a ****


The bloke who could easily retire but still works his bollocks off at 65 and still takes shit off young yuppie upstarts...convincing himself that he "enjoys his job" ...when the truth is he can't think of f*** all else to do (e.g. the jobs worth in some shithole railway sidings) ...is a ****


The newcomer to the gym who goes through a self invented stretching exercise, wrongly convinced that all the regulars will think he knows what he's doing...and usually wears black socks and black trainers...is a ****


The scraggy bloke in his 40's who, on a sunny day, walks round smoking a ciggy wearing a dark blue sleeve-less T-shirt (showing a collection of cheap fading tattoos) black socks and black trainers...and of course a f***ing baseball cap...is a ****


The bloke in the golf club who kills himself laughing at all the captains unfunny jokes...is a ****


In fact all golf club captains are *****.


Blokes who think "You are what you drive"...are *****


When you put your golf ball on a tee and it falls off...the bloke who says "ONE!...Ha Ha Ha"...is a ****


Any bloke over 45 who wears a bandana and an earring and isn't a member of the crew of a pirate ship ...is a ****


The Yanks who chant "U...S...A!!" at sporting events...are *****


Come to think of it all Yanks are *****.


The bloke who insists on telling you how good his car is...is worse than the bloke who tells you how good he is with women...but it's immaterial really...because they are both *****.


Blokes who ride those bikes where you lie down and steer them under your arse (with a f***ing flag on the end of a long thin pole) look like, and indeed are... *****


The bearded rotund loudmouth with the scarf and pint of beer in the rugby stands who shouts "We need more ball!!" or similar obvious f***ing instructions the hooker doesn't really need telling while he's getting his head trodden on...is a ****.


All Morris dancers are *****...with no exceptions


The misguided parent who has emptied his bank account trying to turn his offspring into another Pete Sampras ... not realising that young Darren will very soon prefer shagging...is a ****


The bloke who goes up to the club pianist and comes out with the highly original "Can you play far away" ...is a ****


Any bloke who rides a horse and isn't a jockey ... is a ****


The bloke who insists on telling you about all his ailments...mistaking you for someone who gives a f***...is a ****.


Cliff Richard isn't necessarily a ****...but he will be if he brings out another Christmas f***ing record!!


Anyone who likes Hip Hop, Garage, or Rap music and is over 16...is a ****


Anyone who likes all three and is over 16...is a f***ing ****.


Any bloke with a Mohican haircut...is a ****...unless he was present at Custer's Last Stand...(incidentally Custer was a **** as well)


The Macho guys in tight jeans, cowboy boots and big Stetsons who are seen in every bloody country and western video in station wagons or around a pool table...are *****


The pissed-up football hooligan (usually English) in Italy, with no shirt on, who stands at the front of the mob beckoning the oncoming armoured car with both hands to "have a go" just before the water cannon blasts him arse over tit along the gravel leaving him upside down against a brick wall with no skin and a broken neck ...is a ****


Jonathon Ross is a ****


Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet are a shower of *****.



Each member of Take That (with the possible exception of Gary Barlow) is a ****


Robbie Williams obviously realised this and left...but that doesn't matter because he's a **** as well


George W. Bush is a gold plated ****. (see also ..wanker..tosspot..knob head)



Terry Wogan, Michael Parkinson, Paul Daniels and Sebastian Coe...not forgetting Prince Edward...are *****


I don't know if Mel Gibson is a ****...err...yes he is...now it's official



Anyone who understands what baseball is all about (or even f***ing cares)...is a ****


Anyone who "works hard and plays hard"...is a ****


The Monkeys are *****...Mickey Dolenz being the biggest


The bloke in the queue at the airport with a trolley loaded up with cases surrounded by screaming kids, trying to look cool in his brand new trainers ,brand new tracky bottoms and brand new flowery shirt (with the original crease still in it)...and of course a gold bracelet round his f***ing neck ...is a ****


The whole population of Bangor are *****


The short arsed dancing fool in Boney M who mimes to some other pricks voice ...is a ****


Mustn't forget Bruce Forsythe...what a **** he is.


The bloke in the driving seat of his car on his way to Wales on a Sunday accompanied by three yapping blue rinse old bags...him being the only surviving husband...is a ****


The young bloke at the wedding with the white suit and black open neck shirt who decides he's gonna show the older ones how the younger generation dance to the disco...is a ****



The lad with the gaping mouth and protruding bottom lip and can of lager ... walking down the street uttering intelligent comments like "I'm gone rip iz 'ead off!!"...is a total ****.(and if you ever wonder where NOWHERE is just make a note of the direction he's heading )


It is very difficult not to think all masons are *****...so they must be.


Blokes who stand in a circle in the pub listening intently to each other with a furrowed brow and biting their bottom lip and throwing the odd sixpeneth into the conversation as they discuss their teams midfield problems ...and think that the hairy arsed overpaid manager in his mansion gives a flying f*** what they think ...are *****.


Ainslie Harriet is such a **** he deserves a second mention


Denis Norden , who seriously requires that clip board shoving up his arse...is a ****


Did I mention Ant and Dec?...pair of *****?...I should f***ing think so!!


So there you are. This list is by no means exhaustive but it will give you some idea of what to look for and hopeful avoid as you negotiate life's long and winding road. Because this word has ceased to be a swear word...it should no longer be regarded as offensive.
 






Twinkle Toes

Growing old disgracefully
Apr 4, 2008
11,138
Hoveside
I disagree. The club will continue to make examples to keep the masses from crossing the line. That's the same for law and order in general. The threat is there and everyone's aware they run the risk of punishment for breaking it. Of course, millions get away with breaking the law everyday e.g. mobiles whilst driving, speeding, dropping litter, letting your dog poo on the pavement without picking it up, deliberately towing your dog behind a Porche and so on....

Well unless you're some kind of paragon of virtue at the football (& everything else you do in your life), you might well find yourself up in front of The Beak 'n' all then. :thumbsup:
 
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timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
10,506
Sussex
didn't Tanno shout something similar in the same stadium and receive no more than a three match ban?
 








portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
17,777
Probably would have got away with the F word, but I find the C word unacceptable too. Shame is, people feel they can say what they like wherever they like now and sometimes they get it wrong.

Agree. I can remember when saying "bloody" would end up with you getting a bar of soap to "wash your mouth out" at primary school. Saying the F word was, well, you just didn't do it. As for the C word, it wasn't even in most peoples lexicon; it was never said on tv for example.

But in the past 20 years, the F word has become so common, so widely accepted even in public places that people just don't bat an eyelid. We've nearly all given up being deeply offended by it because you half expect it when someone doesn't agree with you or an event. Increasingly over the last 10 years, it seems the C word is becoming almost as tolerant. It's because kids are growing up using it at an ever increasing young age so that by the time they're e.g. 15 they really don't realise why it's so inappropriate - it just trips off the tongue without any shame or associated guilt thereafter where as people say in their 40's, 50's etc at least belonged to a generation where they feel uncomfortable saying it in company of strangers so there's a natural check there when e.g. you're losing it in a crowd of people.

Add to this the fact we're all angrier, shorter tempers etc more than ever before and well, that's why swearing strongly seems so prevalent in today's world.
 
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portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Well unless you're some kind of paragon of virtue at the football (& everything else you do in your life), you might well find yourself up in front of The Beak 'n' all then. :thumbsup:

Don't get me wrong, I've been spoken to my an officer of the law for foul and abusive language at football too. There were plenty others saying a lot stronger stuff. But had I been banned, yes it would have felt rough justice (but then it always does when you're the offender - people went to the gallows saying they were hard done by for murdering their spouse because she'd cheated on them etc). But I think my sense of self-shame would have stopped me making it public on NSC in a vain attempt to drum up support for my potty mouth e.g. take the ban like a man and learn from it.
 


Twinkle Toes

Growing old disgracefully
Apr 4, 2008
11,138
Hoveside
Don't get me wrong, I've been spoken to my an officer of the law for foul and abusive language at football too. There were plenty others saying a lot stronger stuff. But had I been banned, yes it would have felt rough justice (but then it always does when you're the offender - people went to the gallows saying they were hard done by for murdering their spuse because she'd cheated on them etc). But I think my sense of self-shame would have stopped me making it public on NSC in a vain attempt to drum up support for my potty mouth e.g. take the ban like a man and learn from it.

Fair play to you; & fair comment.
 




Nov 9, 2011
51
any football home and away

Don't get me wrong, I've been spoken to my an officer of the law for foul and abusive language at football too. There were plenty others saying a lot stronger stuff. But had I been banned, yes it would have felt rough justice (but then it always does when you're the offender - people went to the gallows saying they were hard done by for murdering their spouse because she'd cheated on them etc). But I think my sense of self-shame would have stopped me making it public on NSC in a vain attempt to drum up support for my potty mouth e.g. take the ban like a man and learn from it.

Disagree. People should know that our taxpayers money is being spent banning people who swear at football matches. It generates healthy debate.
 










portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
17,777
Disagree. People should know that our taxpayers money is being spent banning people who swear at football matches. It generates healthy debate.

Do you want to be informed of every prosecution for every crime therefore? Go and get a copy of UK Laws 2011 if so. Personally, as a tax paying citizen, I merely expect people to be prosecuted for breaking the law when they're caught doing so. I don't expect to be informed as such of every possible offence and the associated penalties. I just know that the forces of law and order are doing this on by behalf. And that's good enough for me. If I was THAT interested I'd probably be practising law. I don't understand why you think people will care someone's been caught swearing and the law that's in place to deal with such an offense has been exercised?
 




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