mreprice
Active member
Shouldn't we also consider the possibility that the club doesn't want to lose more than 8 million a year?
27,000 crowds and we still can't sign another striker!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nwgull
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Another good reason to stick within FFP is that we'll get a share of the fines from those that don't.
The best reason of all is that running at losses of 7-8m a year, even with 27k crowds, is a long term recipe for disaster.
The best reason of all is that running at losses of 7-8m a year, even with 27k crowds, is a long term recipe for disaster.
Stumpy Tim
Well-known member
Pretty high up in the BellEndry comments I've ever seen on NSC. Good work
chucky1973
New member
the club has no money for transfers. end of conversation. Squad is good enough as it is.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
I've said all along that I doubt TB has bottomless pockets and wants the club to be self sufficient ... but any football club outside the Prem not losing a decent chunk year in year out will be the exception I think
supaseagull
Well-known member
Why? I think Kev is bring optimistic!
Also don't understand why you have to resort to insults because you don't agree with his opinion. Grow up.
nevergoagain
Well-known member
The disappointing thing for me is that whilst I appreciate financial constraints and think that those we have signed are good players in their own right that the squad just doesn't feel like it's becoming Oscars. I was really hoping that when he came in with all of his pedigree/contacts that he would bring some of his players in. I may be completely wrong and he knew all about Ward/Andrews/Agustien but it just doesn't feel that way. Early days I know and probably just me being greedy.
somerset
New member
No its a long term failure of the business plan and operating model,.... somebody cocked up big time.
Surely if we've learnt anything over the last couple of years it's that we need to find the right striker, not just any striker (think Paynter, Volkes etc) and then think Ulloa and that these deals conform to time scales that do not fit with the rigid time frames of transfer windows and deadlines. Having had those thoughts - chill.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Argus saying loan striker in before Reading match.
I completely agree with this, although wouldn't it be lovely to be that exception?
somerset
New member
I think 99% of us would agree, it just grates that clubs across this division are either taking a chance, or they are unaware or don't care about the consequences..... that's what is pissing some of us off. I personally have a decent income, I have plenty of time and motivation to watch the games, even to continue travelling from the West Country, but I am starting to see this economic balance being anything but, the fans are being squeezed more and more, and seemingly getting less and less since those heady days of the Doncaster game and Will popping in that late winner in front of a full house.
Not if it makes us uncompetitive. Unfortunately the better players cost more money and properly managed the better players will get better results and therefore promotion.
Of course it's not as simple as that as QPR showed last season but mostly you can see where they went wrong or there was stuff going on off the pitch that impacted.
The underlying problem, as I see it, is the ridiculous disparity between Prem and the rest. In that respect I think FFP is just a blunt instrument that's going to make it even worse. TB must be weighing it all up, and wondering what the feck to do. If he doesn't go for it he certainly isn't going to make any money in the Championship with or without 27,000 gates, whch I'll doubt will continue either
Rock and hard place I reckon
Agreed. The single most important reason to try to comply with FFP rules is to ensure the long term health of our club. I'm more than happy to be a club that doesn't have to sell its key players and that will thrive in the championship as well as build a stable organisation whilst those around us either subside slowly through lack of planning (or just bad luck not to have a Bloom to build them a stadium) or are on a perpetual sh1t or bust system which ultimately results in a Pompey like slide into extinction.
Three cheers FFP and prudence. I'll take watching enjoyable, competitive, solvent football for the next 50 years thanks whatever division it is in.
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
I can see why some are pissed off, but then as someone has already said, TB does not have bottomless pockets. Some of these clubs are rich people's play things - ours is not. TB has set us up with a state of the art stadium and bailed us out of the financial shit for years and years but he has made it clear that he wants the club to be as self-funding as possible in future, which is a good thing.
The point of FFP is that ALL clubs work along the same lines - you spend within your means and if you do have a sugar daddy, their input is limited to 5m a year. It will be up to the authorities to ensure that this is adhered to. But at the end of the day, TB is not willing to flout the FFP rules and we must go along with that.
As for anyone's personal circumstances and willingness to shell out on the Albion, then that is up to them. They have to decide whether they are getting value for money. Supporters will be squeezed until the club sees, by falling revenue, that they cannot be squeezed any more. Up to this point, the club has not really seen that to any great degree.
somerset
New member
Sadly I fear, and I don't take any pleasure out of saying it, that the crowds already are tailing off. I am not going into the reported vs actual attendance debate again, but we all know that there was not 26807 there on Saturday, or even for the Derby and Burnley games. This simply equates to less match day income, whichever way the 'happy clappers' on this board like to spin it, it cant be argued.
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Most other people seem to think that the club is "well run". I have heard and read the expression used by a number of people from different backgrounds in connection to Brighton, enough to suggest that there might be something in it!