2017 Manchester arena attack

[symyjym]

It’s just occurred to me that this Ariana concert was probably targeted because of the sexualised content in her music. I don't think it was some random gig picked out of a hat, this was chosen for a specific reason.

 

[soistes]

The Palace equivalent thread on the BBS is currently at 43 pages, the Brighton one 58 pages. What gives?

They have two forums (BBS and Holmesdale). Both have threads on this topic


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[symyjym]

And the father now too, apparently.

I thought I heard on the BBC that his dad tried to warn our authorities that he was dangerous.

 

[AZ Gull]

I thought I heard on the BBC that his dad tried to warn our authorities that he was dangerous.

No idea; I heard on the radio news over here (heading in to work a few hours ago) that his father was claiming his son was innocent.

 

[symyjym]

No idea; I heard on the radio news over here (heading in to work a few hours ago) that his father was claiming his son was innocent.

Maybe the father has said that his other son, the one arrested, is innocent? It will become clearer no doubt.

 

[Bozza]

I thought I heard on the BBC that his dad tried to warn our authorities that he was dangerous.

Seems the Americans and/or the French are saying that we were tipped off that he was dangerous and this came from his parents originally.

 

[studio150]

The Americans leaked the name.

And now they've leaked more details about the actual bomb.

So much for the special relationship and security.

Trump has a lot to answer for, he is endangering so many around the world due to an inability to keep himself and his team silent on security matters.

 

[symyjym]

Seems the Americans and/or the French are saying that we were tipped off that he was dangerous and this came from his parents originally.

I think the BBC news have also reported that some friends/peers contacted the authorities 4 or 5 years ago over their concern with him.

 

[Bozza]

How on earth did they get these pictures and details?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...chester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html?_r=2

 

[AZ Gull]

Maybe the father has said that his other son, the one arrested, is innocent? It will become clearer no doubt.

Nope, he was talking about Salman - Salman Abedi: Alleged Manchester attacker’s father says son is innocent

 

[Bold Seagull]

Seems the Americans and/or the French are saying that we were tipped off that he was dangerous and this came from his parents originally.

Are the Americans seriously playing politics with this!!?? Strikes me they're trying to show they're ahead of everyone by leaking this stuff. What a disgrace to be doing this behind our backs. Nothing to actually say they tipped us off yet, but if they didn't it would suggest Trumps protectionism has taken root.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

How on earth did they get these pictures and details?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...chester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html?_r=2

What on earth is going on.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Interesting interview with a Libyan on Radio 4 (43 minutes in).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08qxfnn

 

[easynow]

How on earth did they get these pictures and details?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...chester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html?_r=2

I'd guess this type of evidence is shared widely on intelligence agency databases like interpol etc and when this info is forwarded to affiliated 'experts' for feedback it is easily leaked to the press.

 

[Insel affe]

Nope, he was talking about Salman - Salman Abedi: Alleged Manchester attacker’s father says son is innocent

Not surprising when you understand he fled Libya because he was part of a radical Muslim group opposed to Gadaffi (or however you spell it)

 

[Buzzer]

Are the Americans seriously playing politics with this!!?? Strikes me they're trying to show they're ahead of everyone by leaking this stuff. What a disgrace to be doing this behind our backs. Nothing to actually say they tipped us off yet, but if they didn't it would suggest Trumps protectionism has taken root.

I notice that you and a few others are mentioning Trump here but as much as I dislike him, I don't think he's directly culpable. He has zero influence over newspapers like the NY Times who are acting almost as opposition to him. The security services also aren't at his beck and call in the same way that someone like Bush Snr had them (no surprises given his CIA links).

I suspect that news reporting is a bit like the Wild West over there in the States at the moment and the newspapers are keen to bag a scoop without US Government interference. Their audience is not the UK so they don't care about British sensitivities here.

In short, for once I don't think you can blame Trump for this except for perhaps fostering the climate from which this is now coming.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

UKIP aren't known for their brains, are they?

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/ex-ukip-mep-calls-for-death-penalty-for-suicide-bombers-6658334/

 

[Bladders]

Nothing beyond what is being done.

There are people with a much deeper understanding of the challenges working every day to mitigate the risks we face from terrorism.

I'll live my life and that won't include
- mocking those who use social media to show solidarity
- dismissing that there are deeply complex reasons as to why people commit these acts


I'm not posting on this thread anymore as it's degenerated as they always do into a politicised set of opinions.

F**k terrorism.

RIP to those who lost their lives.

So basically **** all


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[Ernest]

UKIP aren't known for their brains, are they?

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/ex-ukip-mep-calls-for-death-penalty-for-suicide-bombers-6658334/

That will certainly deter them won't it

 

[easynow]

I believe it was Family Guy who did a cut away where the "virgins" were all men in their mid 40's playing games on their computer.

That would be good.