[Albion] £200 million on players

[Lethargic]

We have been a corporate business more obsessed with making money than winning games of football

 

[Wozza]

Welbeck, Dunk, Veltman started in that game.

Not sure how much experience is needed.

Dunk is going backwards. Everyone can see that.

Veltman could barely run, for some unknown reason.

The £200m didn't ADD to the experience. (Unless you count Milner. And I don't.)

 

[Seasider78]

We have a squad bloated in areas we already had quality and are lacking in defensive investment. This has created a squad where opportunities for the younger players has been more limited than previous seasons which has seen some discontent and players being moved out on loan. Rutter aside none of the signings have made a strong case to be a regular starter for us. For me with a young manager and the volume of signings alongside some old respected heads in the dressing room leaving (come back Groß) has been too much of a a change and the squad lacks that togetherness of old with a manager who does not possess the charisma or craziness of a RDZ to galvanize it.

We look very weak and inexperienced this season and there is an absence of leadership on and off the pitch to get a grip on the situation.

I think the club will see out a few months with FH but if the remainder of the season continues like this can see a similar situation to when CH left with the trigger pulled at the end of the season and an appointment announced before the players leave for the summer break.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

This.

Who here did not think beforehand that playing one recognised midfielder against a counter-attacking unit like Forest would be anything other than a disaster? It's absolutely obvious stuff to any football fan, let alone a Premier League manager. No balance in the team at all, and it's not the first time we've fielded 6 or 7 attackers at once as if they're all going to magically dovetail together rather than just get in each other's way. As for throwing Webster up front against Everton.. League 2 stuff. Almost up there with Stuart Pearce sending David James on up front for City. It's not just a desperate move, it can only seriously hack off the players who are specialists in that position. It's difficult to see how we are progressing. Getting pumped by Forest is annoying but not the end of the world. It's the decline in performance levels and seeming unhappiness of several players that's the real worry for me.

Yep. I said on the match thread before the game that the formation reminded me of Ossie Ardilles disastrous 5-5 formation at Spurs but we we were actually even a lot worse than that.

That was probably one of the worst managerial match performances I’ve ever seen and genuinely a resignable/sackable effort for total incompetence on it’s own.

 

[jessiejames]

£200mil given to a £200 coach!

The £200 coach who didn't buy the £200m players

 

[portslade seagull]

Only won 2 in 12 league games now.

A fair few managers would be nervously looking over their shoulders now

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's still a good squad, that should be capable of not losing 7-0.

Luton only won 6 games last season, only one was by more than a single goal. That was a good squad too.

 

[FamilyGuy]

I think we may head the Southampton route.

Why would we?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Luton only won 6 games last season, only one was by more than a single goal. That was a good squad too.

It was a knackered squad that didn't half anywhere near the depth of this one.

 

[The Fits]

Welbeck, Dunk, Veltman started in that game.

Not sure how much experience is needed.

A central midfielder.

 

[Questions]

A fully justified meltdown today.

These are a good meltdown

 

[Bold Seagull]

It was a knackered squad that didn't half anywhere near the depth of this one.

Come off it, most of this squad are injured. Our previous European game was 6 weeks prior. Luton were dreadful, it was every bit as shocking performance as this one - only difference being RDZ had a lot more credit it the bank, but let’s not pretend it was any less shocking a result.

 

[Lethargic]

When was the last time we actually played a player from the U23s, the player progression seems the has not just stalled but died?

 

[jcdenton08]

When was the last time we actually played a player from the U23s, the player progression seems the has not just stalled but died?

Er, today. Hinshelwood started the game and Ferguson came off the bench.

 

[Lethargic]

Er, today. Hinshelwood started the game and Ferguson came off the bench.

Would Hinshelwood have started if he was not the only fit midfielder, Ferguson did not start so my point stands.

 

[jcdenton08]

Would Hinshelwood have started if he was not the only fit midfielder, Ferguson did not start so my point stands.

No, it doesn’t. You said:

When was the last time we actually played a player from the U23s, the player progression seems the has not just stalled but died?

I pointed out that one player from the U23’s started, and one came off the bench. Nowhere did you originally say anything about the subsequent “points” you made, and that’s a generous term.

You didn’t check, made a mistake, got called on it. Fair play, we’re all wrong sometimes. Just own it.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Come off it, most of this squad are injured. Our previous European game was 6 weeks prior. Luton were dreadful, it was every bit as shocking performance as this one - only difference being RDZ had a lot more credit it the bank, but let’s not pretend it was any less shocking a result.

Come off it?
Are you serious. Most of this squad are not injured.
We were able to bring on 2 international midfielders at half time.

The only position we were unable to fill is left back.

In the Luton game ( 4 days after an FA Cup 4th round away game against Sheff Utd) there was no March, Mitoma or Adingra.
Estupinan played but was on death's door.
Groß was playing CM and Milner was right back

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Would Hinshelwood have started if he was not the only fit midfielder, Ferguson did not start so my point stands.

he wasn't the only fit midfielder.

 

[Charlie Livesey]

Nailed it.

 

[BBassic]

A fair few managers would be nervously looking over their shoulders now

As should Fab.

We've been average at best for months. There's only so much you can pin on injuries or the f***ing process.

At some point the guy in charge has to answer questions.