[Misc] 20 Mph Speed Limits

[Super Steve Earle]

Anyone know where you can get up to 20mph in central Brighton?

 

[Easy 10]

Anyone know where you can get up to 20mph in central Brighton?

The rollercoaster on the pier ?

 

[Chicken Run]

Anyone know where you can get up to 20mph in central Brighton?

The A259 “Pop Up”bike lane, it’s empty for the majority of the day!


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[brightn'ove]

In London we have speed cameras on a lot of 20mph roads so don’t go too mad with the 30 in a 20 thing if you’re ever up here ��

 

[Machiavelli]

You can’t beat the train on many journeys eg away trips to the NW. Two stress free hours on a train from Euston to Manchester or Liverpool. Rather than the tedious experience of endless jams on the M6 near Stoke, and the odd huge diversion via Lichfield or similar after a bad accident.

Regarding the 20mph limit, imho it should be mandatory nationwide on all residential roads. The odds of a kid or old person surviving being hit at say 22mph or 32mph are vastly different.

Agree with all of that, although I'll add that trips to the NE (or NEwcastle, at the very least) are even better.

 

[Machiavelli]

Good thread.

I love it. The whole of Faversham is now 20. I have been crawling through town ever since I reached 9 points. It is good for the soul (I'm on 0 points now, TFFT).

But nearly everyone does 30-40. The plums.

We have speed bumps on our road. I would like to see speed bumps throughout town.

I'm the opposite on speed bumps, really don't like them but, while so many drivers insist on driving above the speed limit, residents are always going to call for measures to enforce that speed limit.

 

[Weststander]

Agree with all of that, although I'll add that trips to the NE (or NEwcastle, at the very least) are even better.

I first took that train journey with my Dad in May 79 on that historic day for the Albion. Also some journeys to Edinburgh.

 

[Stat Brother]

Not a fan. I think they're justifiable outside schools, but not everywhere. You can't overtake bikes at that speed - a few times I've ended up tootling along at 20 with a bike on my inside basically keeping up. That makes me uncomfortable, and I'm sure it ain't great for the cyclist either. What am I supposed to do, slow down to 10 ?

What if the cyclist had their own lane?..






...oh.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Considering that everyone does 30 in a 20 anyway (including police), I don't think it has made much of a difference.

I suspect its main purpose is to give harsher prosecutions to those who speed excessively on residential roads.

Yes but people used to do 35-40 in a 30mph limit, so 20mph limit still brings the average speed down by 10-15mph I expect.

 

[Wardy's twin]

My brother in-law is a policeman and he said that basically they cant enforce it as nobody adheres to it. They cant pull everyone over, right?

No they can't but if the fines were increased to a minimum £1000 then people would take notice, if that didn't work then £2000 etc. Some people will always ignore but the majority would reduce quite soon.

That said I think the main thrust of the 20 mph rule was to reduce the speeds to below 30 as people have adjusted to them rather than fining people.

 

[southstandandy]

Driving around Brighton you'd do well to get above 5mph due to all the congestion, roadworks, cycle cones etc. 20mph would be lovely if you could ever get up to that speed in town.

 

[BNthree]

I'm the opposite on speed bumps, really don't like them but, while so many drivers insist on driving above the speed limit, residents are always going to call for measures to enforce that speed limit.

Speed bumps became widespread as they are basically the cheapest way of enforcing speed restrictions. Nothing has else has such a big impact for so little planning, effort and money. Would be great to see more innovative ways of reducing speed through road layouts and partial closures etc. However that takes time, money and effort all of which are things most councils can't afford.

 

[Justice]

In London we have speed cameras on a lot of 20mph roads so don’t go too mad with the 30 in a 20 thing if you’re ever up here ��

Waze will hunt these out and give plenty of warning, love that app.

 

[GT49er]

Yet some councils still refuse to put humps in residential streets used as rat runs, even though the residents repeatedly request them.

 

[zefarelly]

Yet some councils still refuse to put humps in residential streets used as rat runs, even though the residents repeatedly request them.

I was very close to building my own on our very narrow old back road. taxi drivers and delivery vans use it mostly, while kids are often out there playing. if they made it one way ( North ) it would kill the rat run as the next road down is one was ( South)

 

[blue-shifted]

I totally support 20mph limits. As has been said it reduces the typical speeds from about 33mph to about 26 mph. Sounds small, but this will have a huge impact on instances and severity of RTA's

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I'm the opposite on speed bumps, really don't like them but, while so many drivers insist on driving above the speed limit, residents are always going to call for measures to enforce that speed limit.

We used to have an industrial estate nearby so we had folk in work vehicles flooring it on the access road to my street. We had bumps put on the main part after some clown drove too fast, lost cotrol and smashed into a parked car. Luckily it wasn't a bit later when kids were on the way to school. For the first few months you'd still see flatbeds bouncing over the bumps sending sparks out as the rear end smashed back down on the road. They have mostly learned now. axis drivers are still bad. If it isn't your own vehicle....

As someone else said, the amount of time you save by speeding is trivial. I used to drive up and down the country all the time and got to be quite a dick on the road. After I got my 9 points and gave my head a wobble, I found driving slower to be quite relaxing. And it is the jams, lights and other issues that fix the journey time. Caning it saves maybe 5 or 10 minutes per hour. Not worth the bother or the disproportionate fuel consumption. I have been driving in town under the speed limit for years. The 20 was a bit weird at first, but it is quite pleasing that I have still not been tailgated by a dickhead yet.

Times change, innit?

 

[Machiavelli]

Speed bumps became widespread as they are basically the cheapest way of enforcing speed restrictions. Nothing has else has such a big impact for so little planning, effort and money. Would be great to see more innovative ways of reducing speed through road layouts and partial closures etc. However that takes time, money and effort all of which are things most councils can't afford.

That's really interesting: thanks for sharing. My partner has been part of the (randomly-generated) climate assembly forum organised by the council exploring measures to move to net zero. One of the key things to come out of it looks as though it might be car-reduced city centre.

 

[Notters]

This on our 20mph road this morning. Think they mightve been going a little faster

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co...lice-forensic-investigations-continue-3043727

 

[Motogull]

This on our 20mph road this morning. Think they mightve been going a little faster

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co...lice-forensic-investigations-continue-3043727

At least 25 I reckon.

I am so glad I wasn't a few seconds faster as I reached Headcorn this morning. At a junction on a bend (me tuning right) I waited when I saw an old Land Rover approaching. It took a bend to my right a bit fast and as soon as it went out of sight I heard the noise of long skid marks being made. I made the bend as it turned right. Had that taken place up my chuff, I would have shat myself. That was a 30.