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[Albion] 2 lucky VAR calls in last two matches?







Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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What have you been smoking tonight?! It was never a red card. He was never in danger of hitting his head. Petulant maybe but not violent or likely to connect .
Must have been smoking the exact same thing as the entire non-Brighton-fan world then.

If people see that situation, think its fine and don't understand that the "its fine" part comes from having tinted glasses... people need to increase their level of self-analysis.
 




Milano

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Aug 15, 2012
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A red? Maybe.
The ref tonight was SO WEAK, meaning the niggly fouls, time wasting, feigning injury antics of Burnley, sorry Brentford, did start to get to our players and crowd.
The EPL have to address this, calling it the dark arts doesn’t help, it’s cheating so just call it that.
 
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armchairclubber

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Aug 8, 2010
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Clattenburg explained that it couldn't be a red, under the rules of the game, as there was no contact.

He said intent has nothing to do with it, so whether Pedro did intend to connect or not, makes no difference.

So tonight seems to be a cast-iron non-red by the letter of the law.

Clattenburg seemed to be going round in circles after the game when confronted by Murray.
He said 'the more I look at it' .... and then just about stuck with his game time opinion because he thought intent wasn't proven.
He then agreed JP was fortunate it couldn't now go to the panel on Monday morning as both the ref and VAR had made their decision.
It seems there is another law that includes intent.
 




Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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I thought it was a red.

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If that is the law as it stands, then he's definitely lucky. How anyone can say "never a red" is beyond me if the law is that a player only has to attempt to use excessive force to be sent off.

The rest of my post assumes that this is the current law, but in my opinion, he was definitely attempting to hit the Brentford player with his elbow. It's subjective of course, but if the ref had seen it the same way then I doubt VAR would have overturned it.
 


South Stand Bonfire

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Jan 24, 2009
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Must have been smoking the exact same thing as the entire non-Brighton-fan world then.

If people see that situation, think its fine and don't understand that the "its fine" part comes from having tinted glasses... people need to increase their level of self-analysis.
It wasn’t fine but it was never a red card. No tinted glasses on, just saw what happened in real time at the match and on TV when I got home. Player pulls Perdo back, Pedro raises his elbow in frustration which was nowhere near the Brentford player.
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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It wasn’t fine but it was never a red card. No tinted glasses on, just saw what happened in real time at the match and on TV when I got home. Player pulls Perdo back, Pedro raises his elbow in frustration which was nowhere near the Brentford player.
Deluded.
 






martin tyler

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Jan 25, 2013
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Clattenburg said: "If we look at the laws of the game as it's written, it has to be to strike an opponent or attempt to strike an opponent. Because there was no contact he can't be sent off the field of play for the contact. Therefore, it's whether he attempted to strike the opponent. The more I look at it, because it's an unusual action, especially from behind he is looking towards Andy Madley when he swings his arm. He keeps his arm quite close to his body and I think it's more of a gesture to the referee.

That was Clattenburg - suppose the point is only Joao knows what his intent is. He may have meant it he may not but no one saw enough to suggest he did.
 










jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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It wasn’t fine but it was never a red card. No tinted glasses on, just saw what happened in real time at the match and on TV when I got home. Player pulls Perdo back, Pedro raises his elbow in frustration which was nowhere near the Brentford player.
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RM-Taylor

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Joao thought he was going to get sent off for it, he went to the touch line immediately afterwards and had the look of "I’m sent off here" - watch it back on the Prime video app

Same with Wissa when he scored, he knew straight away he was offside, his reaction gave it away
 




LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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Clattenburg said: "If we look at the laws of the game as it's written, it has to be to strike an opponent or attempt to strike an opponent. Because there was no contact he can't be sent off the field of play for the contact. Therefore, it's whether he attempted to strike the opponent. The more I look at it, because it's an unusual action, especially from behind he is looking towards Andy Madley when he swings his arm. He keeps his arm quite close to his body and I think it's more of a gesture to the referee.

That was Clattenburg - suppose the point is only Joao and some posters know what his intent is. He may have meant it he may not but no one saw enough to suggest he did.
Slight amendment
 










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