[Music] 1982. Music had changed for the better. Post your game changers.

[Weststander]

They played at the Rank on 24 May

The previous night they had played at the Bataclan

Did you go to them all?

I was far too young just 12 in the
first year of secondary school, living 7 miles out of town.

From the very beginning I got the impression that JJB/Cornwall could handle any thuggery, could look after themselves. Don’t know if that was true or deliberate management hype?

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

Did you go to them all?

I was far too young just 12 in the
first year of secondary school, living 7 miles out of town.

From the very beginning I got the impression that JJB/Cornwall could handle any thuggery, could look after themselves. Don’t know if that was true or deliberate management hype?

I wish!

Like yourself i was too young

The Finchley Boys took care of security I believe

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I wish!

Like yourself i was too young

The Finchley Boys took care of security I believe

When I saw them at the Top Rank they had a load of dutch Hells Angels with them. No trouble. Fancy that.

First bit of major dickwimbelry I recall was at the art school: The specials was it? Probably a fifteen year old Das Reich reclaiming England for white people and his mum's boss (thank you sir, you're welcome, sir).

Pillocks.

 

[happypig]

Did you go to them all?

I was far too young just 12 in the
first year of secondary school, living 7 miles out of town.

From the very beginning I got the impression that JJB/Cornwall could handle any thuggery, could look after themselves. Don’t know if that was true or deliberate management hype?

JJB could certainly look after himself, he's a karate grand master (or whatever) : https://www.shidokan.org.uk/instruc... Burnel has over,branch chief of The Shidokan.

I heard tell that a pissed-up Shaun Ryder took a swing at him backstage somewhere and got laid out for his trouble.

Anyways, back to 1982 :
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[McTavish]

These were the top 50 selling songs of 1982 - look how many bands and singers from the list went on to have great careers .
Come On Eileen Dexy's Midnight Runners 1
2 Fame Irene Cara 1
3 Eye Of The Tiger Survivor 1
4 The Lions Sleeps Tonight Tight Fit 1
5 Do You Really Want To Hurt Me Culture Club 1
6 Pass The Dutchie Musical Youth 1
7 I Don't Wanna Dance Eddy Grant 1
8 Seven Tears Goombay Dance Band 1
9 Ebony And Ivory Paul McCartney With Stevie Wonder 1
10 Town Called Malice/Precious Jam 1
11 Golden Brown Stranglers 2
12 Mad World Tears For Fears 1
13 Mickey Toni Basil 2
14 Love Plus One Haircut One Hundred 3
15 The Model/Computer Love Kraftwerk 1
16 Oh Julie Shakin' Stevens 1
17 Goody Two Shoes Adam Ant 1
18 Heartbreaker Dionne Warwick 2
19 Only You Yazoo 1
20 Don't Go Yazoo 2
21 Walkin' On Sunshine Rocker's Revenge 4
22 Zoom Fat Larry's Band 2
23 Save Your Love Renne & Renato 1
24 I Won't Let You Down PHD 3
25 Just An illusion Imagination 2
26 Starmaker Kids From Fame 3
27 Hard To Say I'm Sorry Chicago 4
28 Abracadabra Steve Miller Band 2
29 The Look Of Love ABC 4
30 Centrefold J Geils Band 3
31 House Of Fun Madness 1
32 The Land Of Make Believe Bucks Fizz 1
33 Maid Of Orleans Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark 4
34 Young Guns (Go For It) Wham! 3
35 Ain't No Pleasing You Chas & Dave 2
36 Save A Prayer Duran Duran 2
37 It Ain't What You Do Fun Boy Three With Bananarama 4
38 A Little Peace Nicole 1
39 Hungry Like The Wolf Duran Duran 5
40 My Camera Never Lies Bucks Fizz 1
41 It Started With A Kiss Hot Chocolate 5
42 Fantasy Island Tight Fit 5
43 Dead Ringer For Love Meat Loaf 5
44 Inside Out Odyssey 3
45 Torch Soft Cell 2
46 This Time (We'll Get It Right)/England,We'll Fly The Flag England World Cup Squad 2
47 Say Hello, Wave Goodbye Soft Cell 3
48 I've Never Been To Me Charlene 1
49 Mirror Man Human League 2

Yes, there are some great names on there but what strikes me is that almost no-one was just starting out and went on to have a great career. There are a number for whom this was the peak of their career: Dexys, Yazoo, Culture Club; a number who had peaked and were on the way down: Adam Ant, Wham, Stranglers, Duran Duran, Bucks Fizz (!); a lot of (more or less) one offs: Irene Cara, Tight Fit, Charlene and a lot of dross: Rene & Renato, Goombay. I can't see anyone for whom the charts of 1982 were the launch of a great career.

 

[OzMike]

1971 with the introduction of classical instruments into mainstream music.
I preferred Wizard to ELO, shame they didn't last.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vSwDLavjiNc

 

[Deleted member 37369]

These were the top 50 selling songs of 1982 - look how many bands and singers from the list went on to have great careers . So many . Music started going downhill in the mid 90’s and has been going downhill ever since . Little creativity any more , too much formula rubbish . Record companies & tv shows make acts not the acts defining their own look and sound like most did in the 80’s , especially the early 80’s.

6 Pass The Dutchie - Musical Youth 1

September 1982 ... I remember being away in Bristol on a work course. I got back to my hotel room after work and turned on my little transistor radio to hear the new Top 40 chart ... which I think used to come out on a Tuesday back in the day.

I was hoping The Jam were going to number 1 with 'The Bitterest Pill (I Ever Had to Swallow)' having entered the charts two weeks before at number 5. Survivor were number 1 with 'Eye of the Tiger'! The following week The Jam were up to number 2 with Survivor still in the top spot.

So there I am ... listening to my crackly radio thinking surely The Jam were going to knock Survivor off number 1. Indeed, Survivor were down to number 4 ... so surely this was it. Fat Larry's Band were at number 3 with Zoom (great tune) ..... BUT The Jam were still at number 2 because Musical Youth had somehow climbed 25 places from 26 to number 1!!!

I was gutted

 

[Deleted member 37369]

There are a number for whom this was the peak of their career: Dexys, Yazoo, Culture Club; a number who had peaked and were on the way down:

Although Culture Club only had a relatively short career as a band in the charts, 1982 was just the start for them - so hardly the peak of their career. They had big hits in 1983 and 1984!

 

[McTavish]

Although Culture Club only had a relatively short career as a band in the charts, 1982 was just the start for them - so hardly the peak of their career. They had big hits in 1983 and 1984!

Fair enough, I'd mis-remembered and thought Karma Chameleon was before Do You want to hurt me...over all point is still valid. As Guiness Boy said - end of an era rather then the start of something new.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

Fair enough, I'd mis-remembered and thought Karma Chameleon was before Do You want to hurt me...over all point is still valid. As Guiness Boy said - end of an era rather then the start of something new.

And to be fair, the only reason this one hit me was because I saw Culture Club at Wembley Arena in December 1984 - supported by King.

Was a great gig ... although I was completely knackered as we'd been on holiday to The Gambia and our flight back was horrendously delayed - arriving back at Gatwick the morning of the gig. We never made it back home to Hampshire before going to the gig that evening ... and I hadn't slept since leaving the hotel the previous day! The drive back was awful and had to keep pulling over for 40 winks!!!

 

[Weststander]

JJB could certainly look after himself, he's a karate grand master (or whatever) : https://www.shidokan.org.uk/instruc...l% 20has over,branch chief of The Shidokan.

I heard tell that a pissed-up Shaun Ryder took a swing at him backstage somewhere and got laid out for his trouble.

Anyways, back to 1982 :
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In more recent times, JJB dealing with a gobby abuser.

 

[Weststander]

When I saw them at the Top Rank they had a load of dutch Hells Angels with them. No trouble. Fancy that.

First bit of major dickwimbelry I recall was at the art school: The specials was it? Probably a fifteen year old Das Reich reclaiming England for white people and his mum's boss (thank you sir, you're welcome, sir).

Pillocks.

Were The Specials good live?

I love their songs and the vocals of TH, a great find by Dammers.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

Posting this in a hurry. Don’t know if anyone else has as I’ll be saving this thread for an hour tonight to enjoy on my pad with a beer.
This is the only answer for me as it changed everything. (Before anyone says it’s 1983, Soul Mining was but this was released in 82)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61oXNFvBy2c

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Were The Specials good live?

I love their songs and the vocals of TH, a great find by Dammers.

Yes they were great. Too many herbert at the gigs, especially the last one, though. Early days of 'NF skins' (1980/81). Absolutely none of that nonsense in the late 70s (I even saw Skrewdriver before the lead singer, Donaldson, realised that some black men had a bigger willy than him, and went all Nazi-mental; supporting 'Chelsea' whose lead singer was a gay soft porn model - PPF posted a link to their music once, which made me titter). Before that, the NF had been a motly bunch of badly dressed missfits. Still plenty among the ranks in 1981:



I never quite understood how racist bone-heads attached themselves to Ska bands with black members. I'm not trying to suggest that all racists are thick. But they are, though, aren't they, though? .

 

[maltaseagull]

1964, as a 13 year I suddenly took a massive interest in music, so many songs but this one sprang to mind when I read the OP. No game changer just an awakening

Oh hang on this thread is just HWT’s memories, our musical tastes are diametrically opposed

https://youtu.be/4-43lLKaqBQ

You could be in serious trouble for posting a tune on his thread

 

[Weststander]

Yes they were great. Too many herbert at the gigs, especially the last one, though. Early days of 'NF skins' (1980/81). Absolutely none of that nonsense in the late 70s (I even saw Skrewdriver before the lead singer, Donaldson, realised that some black men had a bigger willy than him, and went all Nazi-mental; supporting 'Chelsea' whose lead singer was a gay soft porn model - PPF posted a link to their music once, which made me titter). Before that, the NF had been a motly bunch of badly dressed missfits. Still plenty among the ranks in 1981:

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I never quite understood how racist bone-heads attached themselves to Ska bands with black members. I'm not trying to suggest that all racists are thick. But they are, though, aren't they, though? .

Weird wasn’t it?

They hated blacks, but liked the music and gigs featuring Lynval and Horace.

Can only put it down to a sheep mentality amongst society’s thick-as-shite at that time.

Crowds at gigs must’ve contained an unlikely mix of those numbskulls and their political foes from the left there for the anti establishment message. With some there just for the music …. that would’ve been me, if I’d been old enough.

 

[Weststander]

Yes they were great. Too many herbert at the gigs, especially the last one, though. Early days of 'NF skins' (1980/81). Absolutely none of that nonsense in the late 70s (I even saw Skrewdriver before the lead singer, Donaldson, realised that some black men had a bigger willy than him, and went all Nazi-mental; supporting 'Chelsea' whose lead singer was a gay soft porn model - PPF posted a link to their music once, which made me titter). Before that, the NF had been a motly bunch of badly dressed missfits. Still plenty among the ranks in 1981:

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I never quite understood how racist bone-heads attached themselves to Ska bands with black members. I'm not trying to suggest that all racists are thick. But they are, though, aren't they, though? .

Weird wasn’t it?

They hated blacks, but liked the music and gigs featuring Lynval and Horace.

Can only put it down to a sheep mentality amongst society’s thick-as-shite at that time.

Crowds at gigs must’ve contained an unlikely mix of those numbskulls and their political foes from the left there for the left wing/anti establishment message. With some there just for the music …. that would’ve been me, if I’d been old enough.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Weird wasn’t it?

They hated blacks, but liked the music and gigs featuring Lynval and Horace.

Can only put it down to a sheep mentality amongst society’s thick-as-shite at that time.

Crowds at gigs must’ve contained an unlikely mix of those numbskulls and their political foes from the left there for the anti establishment message. With some there just for the music …. that would’ve been me, if I’d been old enough.

I was only there for the music, too. I went through the whole of punk without engaging with politics.

Then the bone heads started disrupting gigs. All the trouble started with the right wingers.

This sums it all up. In 1981 I was crossing the main road near Great Portland street, chatting with a pal. We had a certain look, like we had a punk-reggae past, comfortable everywhere from the football to Heaven, boots or brothel creepers, a touch of eye liner, very thin, scruffy quiff, possibly hennaed, maybe a leather jacket or donkey jacket. And two bone heads are coming the opposite direction.

"What do you think of the British Movement, mate" says one, as the other walks on, then rabbit punches me from behind.Then they beat a hasty exit. Cowards, thugs, morons, oafs.

After that I did get political. As Billy Bragg sang, which side are you on, boys, which side are you on?

 

[studio150]

Yes they were great. Too many herbert at the gigs, especially the last one, though.

North London skins came down for the Specials/Madness/Selecter gig at the Top Rank late '79 with some trouble I recall. Specials back a year later.
But you're correct in that the level of violence at gigs got progressively worse into the 80s.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

North London skins came down for the Specials/Madness/Selecter gig at the Top Rank late '79 with some trouble I recall. Specials back a year later.
But you're correct in that the level of violence at gigs got progressively worse into the 80s.

I have been told (I have never seen them) that Jesus and Mary Chain gigs were stupidly violent in the early 80s. I had escaped to Vancouver by then, where gigs were an absolute dream.