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- Jul 10, 2003
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I'm fascinated to know where we will apply these tariffs if, as you keep saying, we are going to trade under WTO with no border or customs ?
I think it likely we may want to apply some tariffs
larus
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I'm fascinated to know where we will apply these tariffs if, as you keep saying, we are going to trade under WTO with no border or customs ?
I think it likely we may want to apply some tariffs
I keep waiting for you to exaplin why the UK needs to police the EU border if we leave with No Deal and why they won’t be in breach of WTO rules (assuming we don’t have a deal).
Also, which part of No Border INFRASTRUCTURE don’t you understand. That’s quite a bit different to saying No Border. Oh, and currently there are different Tax/Vat regulations between ROI and UK, so how does that get handled?
Doh! :lol;
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Not difficult to destroy Theresa the appeaser,as soon as that useless old bint is gone the better.
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- Jul 10, 2003
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Sounds to me like you are coming round to the idea of a border and customs. What has happened to change your mind in the last few days then ?
You see, traditionally, each country would have it's own customs on each side of a border if they wanted to apply any tariffs or, just maybe, check what and who is coming into their country (taking back control !)
However I realise from your previous posts than you are not a great fan of tradition or reality
Raleigh Chopper
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I watched it at the normal time.
Crick is the dogs nuts when it comes to grilling politicians.
I am starting to feel a bit sorry for May, everything about her makes you cringe, the way she looks, what she wears, the gurning and the. death stares and of course everything she says.
A truly appalling PM.
larus
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Sounds to me like you are coming round to the idea of a border and customs. What has happened to change your mind in the last few days then ?
You see, traditionally, each country would have it's own customs on each side of a border if they wanted to apply any tariffs or, just maybe, check what and who is coming into their country (taking back control !)
However I realise from your previous posts than you are not a great fan of tradition or reality
Oh dear. Bit slow on the uptake aren’t you!
It appears that you have finally realised the difference between “A Border” and “Border Infrastructure”. This is the point which appears to have taxed your brain cells too much. Well done for grasping eventually.
Now that you understand that important difference and you finally accept the it is the responsibility of the EU to monitor their own imports from the UK post Brexit, you must now accept that if neither side implements physical infrastructure then they would also be in breach of WTO rules (as you have continually said that the UK would be in breach).
Let’s take this small acknowledgment as a big step forward for you. Well done.
- Jul 10, 2003
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larus
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So that is some turnaround in the last 4 days
No physical border checkpoints. Of course there’s a border - there is currently a border. You or no?
And the customs are currently done electronically. I.e on your VAT returns to HMRC for EU sales/purchases.
When I get time later I will trawl back through your posts where you have said we would be in breach of WTO rules etc.
- Jul 10, 2003
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So apart from you doing more U-turns than a spinning top, you're now trying to resurrect TM's 'technology solution' that even she has given up on.
I really can't be arsed with any more of your bollocks - I'm trying to listen to the football
Plus the fella in the link I posted earlier said the EU's trade agreement with Japan will all but prohibit trade between us and Japan, as the UK will not be allowed to undercut that existing deal.
Garry Nelson's teacher
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Funnily enough this was precisely a question I posed about 3 postings before yours in response to The Two Profs posting (which was pretty much exactly the same as yours). I thought my response was pretty reasonable and clearly doesn't claim that we'll lose all trade with the EU.
Originally Posted by Two Professors:
I love the way you lot think there will be NO trade with the EU after Brexit.Intelligent people have already stopped buying German cars over health and safety issues.I dare say it might slow down the Euro groupies it they get a 25% tariff slapped on the top.
GNT: This is quite an interesting point. I'm not sure what projections or forecasts have been made and what assumptions they are based on. It could well be unknowable at this stage. Perhaps Mr Hammond has a model but I've never seen it. Much would depend on the 'deal' (or no deal).
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larus
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So apart from you doing more U-turns than a spinning top, you're now trying to resurrect TM's 'technology solution' that even she has given up on.
I really can't be arsed with any more of your bollocks - I'm trying to listen to the football
God you don’t get it do you. A border is a geographical reality. There is currently a border between NI/ROI and that ain’t going away, so it’s obvious that we are talking about physical infrastructure.
And my point is we can trade without physical infrastructure as this is what the EU have also said to ROI.
So, do you accept that the EU have said to ROI that they won’t be building physical infrastructure? Yes or no?
Come on, answer that question. Even you can manage that.
larus
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And that’s the point. Remainers go about about how much of an impact WTO rules will be, but I’ve read that the average impact to UK exports to the EU will be circa 3-5% tariffs which the EU could impose.
On the plus aside, we can choose not to impose tariffs on things we import from outside of the EU which currently have tariffs to protect EU producers/manufacturers. For example, Oranges. (That’s just one example before someone tries to go all “Hey great, out oranges are a bit cheaper”).
The whole thing is complex, and if you read a lot of ‘less emotional’ articles, the view is there are of course risks and a lot of uncertainty, but anyone who is saying the know what the outcome will be is just lying.
How do we know how much trade will be lost or gained? We don’t.
How much trade will still happen with tariffs applied? Who knows.
How much of the trade is specialised, such as Rolls Royce engines?
A lot of our exports will be services which there is no single market for anyway.
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larus
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And you really wonder why so many people think you’re a tw@t?
Next you’ll be saying you don’t insult people 
Poor little Nibble (the liar). Failure in life so tries to big himeself up here.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Odd. David in Southampton employed a rhetorical question to give me an impression that he was saying the precise opposite to that. I think you misread his post.
And you really wonder why so many people think you’re a tw@t?
Poor little Nibble (the liar). Failure in life so tries to big himeself up here.
Blah blah blah. Still spending your days on here trying to prove everyone wrong. Idiot.
Get a life.
larus
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So he’s in effect saying that the scrare stories of the Remainers about the impact to EU trade of No Deal are just another part of Project Fear.
Ok, in which case I did misread and thanks for the clarification.