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but i thought naylor said they would be fishing in different ponds to us?? ???

well they're cutting out the middleman it would appear

can't see either leaving in January and I would hope we'd have at least one of them going into next season. Big job to replace two potentially world class players in the same part of the pitch

okay, I'll explain to you again what I meant by that as we're going in circles here. In the past, it has often been the case that players with release clauses leave their club for substantially less than the club would get had the clause not been there. that is a fact, I even provided you with...

right, so the net result is that we aren't being screwed out of a larger fee, as has been the case with other players who have had release clauses. which was my point.

depends how good you think the clubs word is. obviously there's less room for manoeuvre when it's written down, but I honestly believe if we verbally said a player could leave for x price and then we got an offer at x price we would let them go. my point overall in this situation is that I...

That's what i meant!! perhaps poor wording but that is what i meant by 'formal recognition'. i.e there's no way for us to backtrack as it is there written in ink, though I'm not convinced we'd do that anyway. If a player has a price we'd sell them at, then that's that, whether via a releasea...

how is that any different from our current transfer policy? the whole 'not standing in the way' thing is pretty much our bottom line, is it not? so as I said, a formal recognition between club and player that he can go for x price, as opposed to verbal

in this case wouldn't a release clause just be a formal recognition of what our transfer policy currently is anyway? as I understand, if a club meets the fee for the release clause, we are bound to accept it and that's all it really details (ignoring any small print, about when the clause might...

I think if the refs in the PL were going one way or another then people may be a bit more accepting, this issue, as always, is consistency. take your first point for example, yes there is generally more penalisation of contact in the PL, but then you get stuff like our penalty shout against...

inter are broke, that's why they had to sell lukaku in the first place, and even after that there's still a big financial black hole. absolutely no chance they'd be able to meet our asking price, which will be well north of the figure quoted above

I do wonder what exactly it is that's the issue? I had assumed that, when RDZ came in, gilmour would've been really important as he seems the sort of player that would suit the system. good passer, fairly press-resistant, excellent technique and vision are all traits that he has, and traits I...

scored twice today ??? regardless of how he's looked in the prem, out of the two games he's actually started (yes I know, a friendly and league one opposition) he's scored two goals. particularly with welbeck hobbling off today, he should maybe start at least one game before we ship him...

is that not the whole point of a strike?

no poll? ???

yeah i wouldn't hold my breath on that

player has very recently changed agents too would imagine this spells the end for colwill if it were to happen

not that I wish to underestimate them, but the charlton game does look like a really good opportunity for him to maybe get his first start. would be nice to see something that says he's worth keeping around, because I imagine ferguson will be going on loan in jan and undav being shipped off too...

no sympathy whatsoever and then some. these idiots are absolutely destroying a cornerstone of the nighttime economy