I think therein lies the rub, I've only ever seen "Actually we made a profit" after someone has accused us of spending more than anyone else to buy the league.
We've had it all season long. Failed to beat Fulham? But look what you spent! Fail to beat Huddersfield "But parachute payments?!" Smash Reading "Well, of course you did, you spent a fortune".
So when we clinch automatic promotion with games to spare, and the very first thing people say after...
Don't be precious, I was just choosing two teams off the top of my head that would definitely spent less than you.
Right, but we're celebrating promotion, not anything else, so I don't get your point?
No idea, but it wouldn't be drastically different. Certainly not enough to make the...
That's my point, each message of congratulation has come with the caveat.
"Well done on winning automatic promotion withallthatmoneyyouspentonplayersitwasagivenanyway, but well done you" :rolleyes:
Have you had Burton and Rotherham fans congratulating you on your successes while referencing...
Except that a team spent more than us, and look like they'll finish about 10th, so it's churlish to dismiss Benitez' achievement.
I agree, the best atmosphere's I remember at SJP were when the away fans were in the Leazes corner, but now the new stand's gone up and part of that is a bar, I...
Well, by referencing the money spent, the implication is that it cheapens the achievement. 'Well sure you won promotion, but you spent loads of money' Do you see? When the world and his dog is adding a caveat to your achievement it ruffles feathers. Had people said 'Well sure, you won promotion...
Yeah I know, but I'm fairly certain that the layout of our stadium presents unique problems to that. To have the fans pitchside, we'd need to either build temporary walls on the concourses to separate home & away fans, or build new entrances/exits.
I'll see if I can find the article...
Dunno, some teams take to the Premier League like a duck to water, some don't. If I were to put money on it, I'd probably put us ahead of you, but I'd want good odds before I did. Burnley have done it without making huge changes to their first team, but yeah they've spent a bit, £40m?
Spending...
I'm not worked up mate, amused and a little baffled, but not worked up.
I think there were rumblings about putting you pitchside, but we're working on avoiding that I think. Which I think is daft. St James' atmosphere is at it's best when the away fans aren't having to use Sherpas to pass down...
Hi, I said "back to where we belong", when?
I said 12th - 15th, is that not bottom half?
Oh and Newcastle United have spent 22 season in the Premier League, 12 in the top half, 10 in the bottom, our average league position is 10th and our average points haul is 54pts. We've only had 2...
Transfer fee doesn't always equate to actual value, or worth to the team now does it? Otherwise Moussa Sissoko would be one of the best players in the Premier League and Zlatan Ibrahimovic wouldn't get on Man Utd bench.
thanks for joining in though.
Cheers. If you've not been before Newcastle is a lovely away weekend if you can get up here for Friday night through til Sunday morning.
Oh I know the standard has been poor for everyone, but the number of inexplicably bad examples officiating is staggering. And while I've watched loads of...
Exactly, our automatic promotion doesn't diminish your success, it magnifies it.
re: the financial gap, you're bang on. When Villa and ourselves came down we were able to spend a fortune, because even players like Janmaat who hadn't dazzled were able to be shifted for £7m. And then suddenly...
Are you suggesting that if you spend money you go down?
Premier League isn't about spending a fortune, it's about savvy recruitment. We didn't go down because we spent £80m, we went down because we had a bad manager, no depth in key areas, no leaders on the pitch and a squad of mercenaries...
I think the officials played a huge part in us not winning the title. I know that "it balances out over a season" and I'd agree with that most seasons. But this season I've seen more dodgy penalties given (Forest), fewer stone wall penalties given (Forest again, Leeds), more red cards tackles go...
Why does our success impact yours, when yours is likely to outshine ours? It's like Usain Bolt being happy that Justin Gatlin finished 2nd outside his PB, rather than being happy he won the Gold.
Is your position that Newcastle a) didn't deserve automatic promotion because we're a rich football club or b ) their fans shouldn't be happy about automatic promotion because we're a rich football club?
I agree, the standard needs improving all across the English football landscape, but there was a Championship referee who didn't know the laws of the game. The refs in the Prem aren't perfect, far from it, but they are much, much better than the majority in the Championship. Those 12 referees...
Not sure of the nature of your criticism.
To achieve our aims, Newcastle will have to spend money as the squad we're going up with isn't good enough to be assured of safety next year. The same is true of Brighton. Shelvey and Knockaert are two of the best players in this division, they're...
Yes, we spent a lot, but Benitez didn't spend £55m adding to an already strong squad, he literally bought a new team (1 'keeper, 4 def, 4 mid, 2 Str) because the one he inherited wasn't getting close to the play offs, let alone the automatic spots. We spent well within our means and look likely...