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  1. Kalimantan Gull

    [Football] Arsenal’s Ben White

    Nah, kids too good and as someone else said, he has a had a real Premier league grounding at Brighton. Thinking that he will struggle is more wishful thinking on the part of fans who really want to 'win' this transfer. Its probably what a lot of Leeds fans thought when they couldn't get him...
  2. Kalimantan Gull

    [Football] Arsenal’s Ben White

    King is dead, long live the king. Don't disagree, but it does it just become a conveyor belt? If it can help you move up, fine, but if you just stand still producing and then losing talent to the big clubs, at what point does it become very annoying? In the last ten years Southampton have sold...
  3. Kalimantan Gull

    [Football] Arsenal’s Ben White

    We've signed Mwepu for £20m, Scherpen for £4m or so and have apparently bid £15m or so for Cucurella - no, I don't think we NEED the money. Selling White obviously is a boost to the coffers, but it certainly isn't against his wishes. White is going because he wants to be at the very top, and...
  4. Kalimantan Gull

    [Football] Arsenal’s Ben White

    Can I be contrary and say that, whilst I understand the money is important to the sustainability of the club, the value of the transfer does absolutely nothing for me, it could be 1m, 50m, 200m - I can't get excited about it. For me it doesn't atone for the loss of one of the brightest prospects...
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    [Albion] Odsonne Édouard

    We said 'it's fine' because Maupay had had a good first season. Then he had a difficult second season and he is now being widely written off. My feeling is he'll put that behind him and become very good, I think he'll thrive off fans being back in the grounds.
  6. Kalimantan Gull

    [Help] Petition to end laboratory testing on animals.

    You wrote a long and detailed reply above, and as a scientist myself, I get it. You're doing experiments and this is the way they've been done for years. In my (very different) field, the same thing persists, people still use the old methods when new methods become available, become closed to...
  7. Kalimantan Gull

    [Help] Petition to end laboratory testing on animals.

    I'm afraid I'm going to reject the premise and the analogy. You can only score a goal by making an attempt on goal, there is no other way. But a medical student can train to become a surgeon without ever practising on animals. You can develop drugs without testing them on animals - or more to...
  8. Kalimantan Gull

    [Help] Petition to end laboratory testing on animals.

    You are correct there are indeed regulatory requirements to have animal testing, but that isn't the same thing as requiring animal testing to develop drugs. 95 percent of all drugs that are shown to be safe and effective in animal tests fail in human trials because they don’t work or are...
  9. Kalimantan Gull

    [Help] Petition to end laboratory testing on animals.

    He made a very good point which I don't think you really addressed in your reply
  10. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Tino Livramento

    I came here to post the same, saw your post. Yep, for me Lamptey is far more of an attacking player than a defender - he reminds me of Sterling the way he ghosts around the box. His pace means he can play in defence, as he can quickly recover if caught out of position - but I can't recall his...
  11. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Odsonne Édouard

    I dont think that's completely fair. All he is is a journalist with sources, like many others. His particular sources are inside the Brighton camp, and he'll report what he heard from them. If they give him nothing about White, then he has nothing to report other than what he's read himself. If...
  12. Kalimantan Gull

    [Politics] Dominic Cummings v H&SC and S&T select committees *Official Match Thread*

    Cummings was never ignored, he was clearly the guy driving policy, he is responsible for brexit, arguably running the country. I don't think anyone ignored him or if they did they were mistaken. Some people are trying to ignore him now but considering everything he is saying was coming from the...
  13. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Centre Backs

    Veltman is fine, similar to Webster and Dunk, but they can't hold a candle to white. Still, I guess that's why he went for 50m!
  14. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Centre Backs

    I'd quite like someone to replace White who is good at the kind of things White was good at - extremely comfortable on the ball, bringing it out of defence, close-range accurate passing. For all Veltman's abilities that is not him, and Veltman to replace White would be a big step backwards in...
  15. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Would YOU take £50m for Ben White?

    Obviously your last paragraph is the thing I can't quite reconcile. But I suppose the only way we can try and keep the very best is by having that connection, a la Dunk. Losing them painfully is then the price we pay. We don't have to sell White, he's got four years on his contract, he's young...
  16. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Would YOU take £50m for Ben White?

    It's popular to point out this gulf, and on a team level maybe. But it obviously wasn't a gulf for Dunk, Duffy, Webster, White. Nor was the gulf from the u21s too big for Lamptey, or from Rochdale for Sanchez. If you're good enough, etc etc My point isn't that Whites development hasn't gone...
  17. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Would YOU take £50m for Ben White?

    Mistake is strong, sure, but either we admit that Bielsa was able to develop him in a way that Potter couldn't have, or that we are making a mistake with Alzate and others, or that White could have done it with us. Ultimately though, Alzate is no White. Difference between top championship and...
  18. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Would YOU take £50m for Ben White?

    I meant English CB but sure. Anyway white is a different kind of player - if he comes a good defender on top of his ball playing skills he could be the best we've ever had. Not confident Arsenal will develop him that way though. Considering the connection he developed with Leeds fans in one...
  19. Kalimantan Gull

    [Albion] Would YOU take £50m for Ben White?

    I think at this level of transfer fee amounts of money stop being easily comparable, it's just circumstances at a particular moment in time. Anyway, Maguire would have been on a much bigger contract at a bigger club competing at the top level with more experience and going to a richer and bigger...
  20. Kalimantan Gull

    [Football] Arsenal’s Ben White

    Is that right? :lolol: them cheeky northerners!

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