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Or, the shots are from stupid distances/angles because the players shoot on site because they are struggling with the formation and lack of options to pass the ball to.

No ta, what happened to that French bloke we interviewed?

With the full backs playing as wingers, the central midfield are covering them therefore unable to get forward. I can't believe Gardner and Caskey are happy about being asked to play as sort of full backs.

Why? Hyypia has chosen the style

Feel for him, being left exposed time and time again because the full backs don't defend (as Bennett said Hyypia's instructions). Confidence looks shot, which is saying something as he always seemed a really confident bloke.

Possibly? By far a better player, however, he seems to have gone backwards under Hyypia. Look a brilliant player when he first arrived but now struggles

Did Gus have experience beside him, did Oscar?

I never said I had the answer, but I think people are well within their rights to ask the question after two wins by mid October. The players are better than they are showing though, I put the manager at blame for not getting the best from them

So what did we learn today? For me, it was proof that the formation is no good, but other than that?

Its not just lost a few games, its the general way he has set up the team to play. The players look lost and the opposition are taking advantage

Embarrassed because he lost his two centre backs (that had been key to the best defence in the league). Also, did he have a 'much' better squad? Ulloa certainly (whether he would be a success in a Hyypia team is another question)

After two league wins all season, why is clueless to ask the question?

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Bang on, why is the left back on the half way line when their right winger is putting the ball in net. Not blaming Bennett really, clearly the way he has been asked to play.

Bollocks. Calde don't have the qualifications for a start and the club don't operate that way (using the rumour mill) any more.

I'm on the fence but I'm looking in the garden of the out brigade and starting to think I might join them.

Oh Oscar, we can only dream of having him back.

There was a moment in the second half when most of the left sided players asked the bench what to do, Hyypia just sat there and jones had to tell them. Pretty sure at 2 down the manager should take the responsibility.

I'm not sure still having Ulloa would be making any difference, the style of the team is shocking.

That was quite simply inept. Beginning to climb off the fence to say bye to Hyypia. Formation and style is horrible