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Yes, that's certainly the case. The problem is we're dropping points now and looking very light weight. A bit powder puff rather than a powerhouse.

I am a bit underwhelmed so far. I don't mean to appear an incontinent, whining git but could we not do with the odd bit of reinforcement this season...?

United carving Wolves open at will really. We couldn't make a dent last Monday. Feels about right they jump above us in the table.

Reaching much? No (zero) positives. Shite.

Ah yes, but you need to apply some sort of formula to make sense of this. Sort of cost of squad divided by scoreline. Or multiplied by. Somebody on here must do the maths.....

And not just cos Warren has said it 7 times, it's NOT a bad day at the office. Only if you've pulled out your drive and got wiped out by an HGV.

Hear hear. However, it's not about losing, it's about having a f***ing clue and applying yourself. Which we didn't.

Plus ca change, mon ami. That's how he rolls.

Should have got a plane to Malaga......schoolboy error!

The problem isn't just 3 points tonight. It's that we've told the rest of the PL we're really not very good. There will be consequences.

f***ing shambles, not acceptable

In recent matches, Ferguson and Lamptey have done nothing coming on as subs. Hopefully different tonight.

Partly? Generous IMO.

And the weather was shite

What can any of usefully say to this shambles? I'm not in the camp that assumes we'd roll over Luton, not at all, but this isn't good enough. Do we not give a f***? Can't be arsed? It's really not a good look. Should have put the U21s out. At least then we'd have an excuse.

Draw? Chance would be a fine thing!

Every cloud and all that

Bolleaux no home time again......

Been very impressed with Pope today, he's really stuck at it. Not so much some of the other old lags, you know who you are....

I'm hoping this is part of managing his fitness and overall recovery. Blistering pace is the major part of what he's all about, and we're not seeing it yet.