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Football newbies and old heads were probably asking the same question : ”What are we trying to do?”.

In a small way I’m glad Southgate didn’t get to fluke his way to victory . The establishment love in would have been nauseating

Nice bloke, probably good at managing up, created a good culture, probably good at loads of other things. But very limited in the part that really matters - in-game management.

It’s not a vintage Spain team whatever the fawning pundits say, just a good one. We chose to set up in such a way that it flattered Spain. That is on the gaffer. We played to compete, not to win. That is also on Southgate

It does look like we will have to win at Taunton. Not ideal. But we do produce some of our best performances when it’s least expected

On a side note, Chris Nash was superb on co comm yesterday . some really interesting player perspectives and funny too. They should get him back

To be fair to a lot of the commentators on the county circuit, they are very very good. You wouldn‘t know if they’re a distance from the action, and they’re not looking for excuses. Adrian Harms most certainly makes the most mistakes, making for a frustrating listen sometimes. In his corner ...

If you don’t go this season you never will . Cancel it !

The best comm I’ve heard on the circuit is Ed Seabourne at Gloucestershire . He’s the whole package and hopefully will get a chance at Tms

That’s a generous view considering he’s in the highly coveted position of getting paid to watch cricket. So many mistakes every game. Hell, every over. Disappointing today but maybe not a bad thing in the greater scheme of things. You learn from your defeats. We were 20 short and our back up...

If that‘s not possible, 120 minutes of frustration and pain culminating in the worst team winning would also be fine 👍

Adrian : “I think it might be fair to say that Essex may be favourites now” Everyone : “of course they’re favourites you idiot “

Are you Gareth’s mum? Because even Southgate himself accepted we weren’t very good.

Not sure. Combination of booze , hookers and drugs I’d imagine . I’ll ask around

It’s indisputable that he’s been lucky in draws . If you put value on fact

Strong and fair points. His best work may go unseen to the fans.

It depends which way you look at it. another is whenever England have come up against a stronger nation they have lost (a point slightly softened by the Dutch result admittedly). So he must be doing something wrong. To your first point - most views I’ve seen say Southgate is mediocre . Neither...

Not having that! He has undeniably been fortunate with every draw he has ever been involved in as a manager, going by the FIFA rankings. This is not a positive reflection on his talent at all. Just luck. Overall he is a bang average manager, and if we win tomorrow it will be as much despite of...

Hants beat gloucs. Get in. And Glamorgan lost. quarter finals - done