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And only now do the Always Ultras wake up. The notion that they create a constant intimidating atmosphere all game is a load of old shite.

Again this is where it takes far far too long. Now I actually agree with the penalty, he didn't touch the ball, it's a foul. The game should've been stopped and the check take place, as Liverpool could've easily have gone down the other end and scored and then it becomes an utter farce.

But it's the same passage of play that led to the penalty. If Hughes hadn't made that foul then the penalty would never have arisen, so it has to be counted by VAR. I think this penalty shows exactly how VAR should work and correctly. It just takes too long. Maddeley didn't need 20 watches of...

I mean it is the correct decision, it's a foul on Endo, but just takes too long.

Pre VAR you'd have said no foul there, good decision to give the pen, but Hughes didn't touch the ball, so has to be a foul and no penalty. Oh and taking far too long. Far, far too long.

Liverpool really missing Ali Mac in midfield and insane how many times Nunez is offside. Is he just trying too hard after all the early stick he got.

See the South London Comedy Collective have set their stall out early to just defend.

Good man, my memory is shocking, barely remember what I did yesterday 😁 Just remember being gobsmacked the penalty was given and subsequently looked up the ruling.

We had a similar back in the Championship at Fulham, where the foul on Tomer Hemed started outside the area and carried on into it, so the Ref awarded a penalty.

I just got the email from them today. Thoroughly deserved, it's a cracking publication.

Exactly. We're now seeing the benefits of the rotations, the youngsters getting 15-20 mins here and there. Ok, so we've had injuries and suspensions we wouldn't have wanted, but those coming in are slotting in nicely. You only have to see how shot Newcastle are in the last 20 mins to see what...

Crikey, window cleaners be rich in Sussex! Ours in West London has just gone up from £10 to £11 for a bay window, two upstairs windows and the front door.

Ta for starting this thread. I'm doing pretty well for the most part. I don't really have any major gripes in life, everything has kinda gone to plan, but there is a constant niggle in my marriage where a lot of my husband's mood is dictated by his family. I've always been rather stoic about...

Sometimes you just have to win ugly. We've been there before, we're there today. It wasn't pretty, but it's a win and we're through to the next round. People wrongly made us easy favourites to go through a group with Ajax, Marseille and Athens in it. What an insanely hard group to qualify from...

Ffs just keep the f***ing ball

Reckon Duffus would've been onside with VAR there.

Not surprised Ferguson has come off, he looks dead on his feet.

I know we're our own worst enemy in this game, but fair play to AEK, they're not giving up and really giving it a go.

Gilmour's passing has been proper sloppy tonight. Hinsh has been superb though.

I hope they get a second, what should now be a formality is still all so heart attack inducing 😂