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Too much going on in his brain at the moment. Undeniably technically gifted and can strike a ball with incredible purity (as long as it’s not a dead ball!) but just all over the place in his decision making. Wants to be the main man who creates from everywhere but would be far better suited to...

As others have pointed out, the easiest way to sum up his appearances so far is that he is just off the PL pace. The two extra unfortunate things for him are, his mistakes are very noticeable and costly, and, he’s following the footsteps of recent predecessors in his position who have all been...

Incredible free kick from Peupion!

Pretty even so far, no one standing out too much for us. Nice little ground.

We’ll agree to disagree. It’s such a bad error it will go down in Albion folklore like the Hawkins and Hinshelwood own goals at Withdean. It’ll still be being spoken about years from now, that’s why Wieffer has now got so much to do to turn his image around.

So like I said, you think it’s a tactical issue, we shouldn’t have pressed. Fair enough. Personally I think FH knows it’s Wieffer’s fault but obviously can’t say it publicly. His philosophy is often to pursue a high press (especially given that we had spent too long on the back foot and needed...

You never mentioned Estupinan in your original point if you’re playing that game.

FWIW, Wieffer has had moments of looking good but far more moments of looking sub-par. Unfortunately, he is very close to 25, so doesn’t have as much allowance in regards to his performance levels as some of the other recent signings.

You’d make a great politician.

So you’re saying a tactical fault - we shouldn’t have pressed? Would’ve saved Wieffer his blushes if he had instructions to just sit in.

Trouble is, you’re still not answering the question related to your original point. What could the defenders have done better? The players are high because of a tactical high press. The tactical high press doesn’t account for winning the ball then giving it away in the most embarrassing fashion.

Still think he’s the most natural finisher the club has ever had. Can score every type of goal.

The team executed a very good high press and won the ball. That takes 4/5 all pressing the right angles and players. It worked perfectly. We won the ball. Those attacking players are then high up the pitch because they have pressed successfully. The rest defence is in place not expecting the...

Still no answer :lolol: Come on, tell how the defenders were more at fault than Wieffer for that goal…

So you have no answer to what the defenders should’ve done differently then? The team executed a very good high press to win back the ball, of course we had men high up the pitch. You seem to think the defenders should’ve done better. Clueless.

I’m sorry but have you ever played football? What could the defenders have done differently? Some very minor things but ultimately they played the situation they were presented with as you would expect. What you don’t expect is a player to hit a Sunday League level pass. All he had to do was...

I watched him too from the moment the ball left his foot and felt awful for him. But it’s so bad it’s hard not to criticise him for it. I get the point that maybe four shouldn’t have charged forward but ultimately, I don’t think those four players would expect Wieffer to hit a Sunday League...

There’s a difference between recognising a catastrophic error and writing a player off. Today was a catastrophic error which unfortunately for him has been preceded by average at best performances. He’s got a lot to do to prove himself.

I’m actually struggling to process how bad a mistake that is for an elite level footballer.

I’m sorry, but if you can’t blame a player for that error then you can never really blame a player. It was horrendous.