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oh here we go, it's all just luck? Getting to the WC semi was luck, the last Euros final - luck, this final - just luck Every time England win it's just luck? *Yawn*

who would have thought an England manager would be jeered and cups thrown at him yet gets us to a final?

Criticised for sticking with Pickford - proved em wrong Criticised for picking shaw - proved em wrong criticised for his subs, brings on Palmer and watkins who assist and score the winner. previously Brought TAA and Toney on to take pens who both converted (v SwizzZZ) He stuck with Kane and...

I also live in Utrecht?

I'm with you mate. What amazes me is the haters say the same thing about England and Southgate, get it completely wrong, every time, yet come back and say the same things i.e. Southgate is clueless, England are clueless and/or lucky. All they do is show how little they understand football...

Wow this is so deluded. cherry picking stats to make us look poor and/or lucky, then ending your post admitting our game plan is working We played 2 teams in the knockouts who did not come to play football, theri game plan was to put everyone behind the ball and man mark our danger players...

I agree but also shows how unsusally large the armchair support wants us to lose

it's also the first team we will face who will play to win and win the tournament Should be a better gane than the Swiss Snorefest, they let theit fans down with their ultra negative style

we played another team who set their stall out to defend and frustrate, but that was somehow Southgate's fault. He brought on Toney and TAA to take pens, they both scored and we won. But apparantly it's just 'luck' A lot of egg on a alot of face WC semi EURO Final EURO semi (at least) But...

but we never used to pen shoot outs. Southgate won 2. Pure luck of course

Oh sorry it's the pure luck theory Switzerland's 100 mile an hour Brazil-esque football wasn't enough

Bobby Robson / lost on shit pens = managerial genius Terry Venebles / Lost on shit pens = great England manager Southgate / wins on penalties, all perfect = shit manager The verdict of the England haters

another semi, 5 perfect pens, 2 from Southgate subs, and he was criticised for sticking with Pickford But yeah, it's pure luck.......

shamefull by the Swiss, if you play at a tournament you should play to win

We need a David Platt moment

Swiss should be 3-0 nil up in that case. Even stranger when you see only 1 team is trying to win (the bunch of players)

Did I miss the Swiss period where they were playing swashbuckling all out attack?

But it's the Swiss who have taken the fun out of the game with their ultra boring tactics

Saka's goal was luck? not a brilliant strike?

The SWiss are so boring, this is an embarrasing performance from them