Sergio Aguero Shows Respect-Take Note James Mclean

alfredmizen · Oct 27, 2015

An Argentine choosing to wear a poppy to commemorate soldiers who have died in battle, despite the fact his own country have been at war with us in the past. A man that understands the cultural significance of the symbol in the country of which he is living in.

Its not celebrating war, its about paying respects to people who have died fighting, a lot of whom will have been forced to sign up.

BUTTERBALL · Oct 27, 2015

Credit where it's due. Good on him. I'm sure he will take some stick back home for that.

jonny.rainbow · Oct 27, 2015

A picture of James McClean's hometown.

alfredmizen · Oct 27, 2015

jonny.rainbow said:
A picture of James McClean's hometown.

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A picture of yours

yet we swallow this

For the sake of peace.

Springal · Oct 27, 2015

I've got sympathy with James McLean. None of us know what it's like to grow up in an area we did, and what was inflicted on his friends and family. He has his views and who are we to argue that.

Don't agree with it, but glad we still have some people in the game with their own views

BadFish · Oct 27, 2015

Its poppy police time of year again....... make sure you wear it people or you will be judged.

BadFish · Oct 27, 2015

Springal said:
I've got sympathy with James McLean. None of us know what it's like to grow up in an area we did, and what was inflicted on his friends and family. He has his views and who are we to argue that.

Don't agree with it, but glad we still have some people in the game with their own views

This. People are allowed different views and people will have different perspectives on things. Fighting for freedom of though is part of what the poppy represents to me. Including the choice of not wearing one.

It seems a lot at this time of year of people are more concerned with who isn't wearing one that who is.

jameswestport · Oct 27, 2015

I wouldn't wear one. Red doesn't suit me.

jonny.rainbow · Oct 27, 2015

alfredmizen said:
A picture of yours
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yet we swallow this

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For the sake of peace.

True peace would be a man in the public eye being allowed to make a decision of conscience without being subjected to death threats, abuse or even comment. (I would include this thread in that sentiment.)

Lady Whistledown · Oct 27, 2015

Why would James McClean take note of Aguero wearing a poppy? He evidently has strong views on the subject. He's hardly going to change them because some other footballer is going with the flow.

SIMMO SAYS · Oct 27, 2015

Springal said:
I've got sympathy with James McLean. None of us know what it's like to grow up in an area we did, and what was inflicted on his friends and family. He has his views and who are we to argue that.

Don't agree with it, but glad we still have some people in the game with their own views

Not sure about your post - you sound like a seventeen year old student.
I'm 59 and grew up with every fecking ira bomb that went off around the country.
Personally if mclean got run over tomorrow I would have the rest of the day off with a few :drink:

Diablo · Oct 27, 2015

BadFish said:
This. People are allowed different views and people will have different perspectives on things. Fighting for freedom of though is part of what the poppy represents to me. Including the choice of not wearing one.

It seems a lot at this time of year of people are more concerned with who isn't wearing one that who is.

Absolutely agree . I do look around and wonder why anyone does not buy/wear a poppy.However bit early ,I haven`t got mine yet.

Guy Fawkes · Oct 27, 2015

alfredmizen said:
An Argentine choosing to wear a poppy to commemorate soldiers who have died in battle, despite the fact his own country have been at war with us in the past. A man that understands the cultural significance of the symbol in the country of which he is living in.

Its not celebrating war, its about paying respects to people who have died fighting, a lot of whom will have been forced to sign up.

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." springs to mind

So in this case you think that he should be made to wear a poppy because soldiers fought and died to preserve the personal freedoms we have / had - freedoms like the freedom of choice, of free speech, etc.....? so therefore it seems a bit ridiculous then to get worked up over someone exercising one of these freedoms as they see fit - it should be down to the individual's personal choice.

Isn't trying to embarrass or force them into something they don't want to do going against their freedom of choice, and against what a lot of soldiers fought to try to preserve in the first place?.

You may not like their choice, but it is exactly that, their choice.

Tom Bombadil · Oct 27, 2015

I see the poppy nazi's are out early this year.

Harry Wilson's tackle · Oct 27, 2015

When I saw every single person presenting a telly programme wearing a poppy last week I assumed we were well into November already. Poppies should not be part of telly 'wardrobe', surely? Its Remembrance Sundy, not remembrance fortnight. That said, I'm not disturbed to see the poppies worn, as such (better early than never) but given that probably none of the wearers thought of doing it and bought a poppy for themself, it smacks of patronizing tokenism.

For what its worth, I put the Christmas deccies up on Christmas eve and take them down on twelth night. It makes Christmas more special for me, but, like Danny Baker, I like to see the lights up early on the outside of people's houses, like you see in North America. We have some crackers in my town

(Nothing to do with the OP post, by the way, which I gave a thumbs up, regardless of the earliness of Sergio's initiative, and the somewhat needless criticism of the other bloke).

atfc village · Oct 27, 2015

Don't agree with McLean ,but it's his freedom of choice. Likewise he wouldn't agree with my view of what he thinks on certain subjects.

Lady Whistledown · Oct 27, 2015

Surely, if the wearing of a poppy is meant to be a sign of respect and remembrance, then if somebody was to wear one under protest, because he'd been forced to, then it rather defeats the object of the exercise in the first place. It would be a meaningless, empty gesture.

Personally, I choose to wear one, thereby also donating money to the RBL as well as commemorating those lost in wars. But equally, I confess I do find it slightly uncomfortable when others are made to feel as though they're obliged to. One can still demonstrate respect without wearing a poppy. Or, frankly, just maintain a dignified silence on the matter.

BadFish · Oct 27, 2015

Remembrance Sunday is about remembering those who fought and died for others. Why should this also be about wearing a poppy to display your act of remembrance? Even worse, how on earth has it become about checking who is and isn't displaying said act and shaming those that do not conform to the 'correct' way of remembering.

Mellor 3 Ward 4 · Oct 27, 2015

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
When I saw every single person presenting a telly programme wearing a poppy last week I assumed we were well into November already. Poppies should not be part of telly 'wardrobe', surely? Its Remembrance Sundy, not remembrance fortnight. That said, I'm not disturbed to see the poppies worn, as such (better early than never) but given that probably none of the wearers thought of doing it and bought a poppy for themself, it smacks of patronizing tokenism.

For what its worth, I put the Christmas deccies up on Christmas eve and take them down on twelth night. It makes Christmas more special for me, but, like Danny Baker, I like to see the lights up early on the outside of people's houses, like you see in North America. We have some crackers in my town

(Nothing to do with the OP post, by the way, which I gave a thumbs up, regardless of the earliness of Sergio's initiative, and the somewhat needless criticism of the other bloke).

The Royal British Legion launched their appeal last week, Thursday I believe, hence why people are now wearing them.

Agree with you re Christmas by the way.

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