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Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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I need to vent somewhere and its going to have to be here. Sorry folks.

Well... this such a weird thing to post on a British football (well) forum with a bunch of people I've never met, but then that goes for a lot of things I post here.

If I post something on Facebook, too many people I know get too emotional, and I don't want to be a burden to anyone. I know many people struggle more with bad things in life, getting severe depressions and eating antidepressives or ceasing to exist or whatever, than I do. So I never/rarely talk about my own problems as I've got nearly insane coping mechanisms.
As a kiddo I was wild and violent, struggling to express myself. Was taken to a therapy school for two years and came out of it as something of a machine, able to turn every negative thought to a positive one and so forth. A life saver, but not always practical.

I also started smoking weed when I was 18. Not because I needed or wanted it but because all my friends did and they had such a good time, so why not. And it was lovely, especially the music.

As time went on, weed became more and more of my main coping mechanism. I remember a close friend dying from an MDMA overdose at Roskilde and when I was told about it I was so baked I only thought "ok this is sad but I'd like to not think about it" and that has been a solution for me whenever shit gets too hot to handle.
Now my father is dying.

He's only 62 but has been struggling with his health for 5+ years.

When he got a throat tumour in August or September last year he was considered having 1/3 of a chance of surviving it. Two weeks ago there was finally an end to this as a friend of my dad (he doesn't like sentimentality either) told me "Petter doesn't have long left. The doctors said 'weeks, not months'".

I said "Ok, not good". And obviously I've been staying away from the roughest emotions through various inner coping methods: "well, he doesn't like modern life anyway", "he's suffering so much, it'll be good for him to go", "once he dies I will carry on his memory through collecting his writings and publish it, he'd be happy with that". And so forth so forth.

Combined with a situation where I no longer get social welfare and cannot pay my rent, the situations are adding up and all this coping takes a lot of effort, ESPECIALLY since I've decided not to smoke any weed; I'm not going to watch my dad die and feel nothing and carry around that bad concious for the rest of my life.

Another mindfucker soon appeared: I realised I have absolutely no clue what to do when he dies.

Am I supposed to drag his dead body to the morgue myself? The vague Swedish bureacracy seems to think that I should be responsible for taking care of his belongings (value ca £0), the cleaning of his apartment, arranging the funeral. I wouldn't be surprised somewhere within these vague instructions includes "oh, and bring a shovel".

Probably doesn't work the same here as in UK but any of you have any experience of NOT knowing what to do in a situation like this? Or do people learn this in schools at some lesson I didn't attend?

I'm not his only kid though, so I'm also supposed to somehow involve my heavily autistic half-brother (who I haven't met since another relatives funeral 16 years ago, when my brother was 4) and my psychotic half-sister who is a shell of a human since her Postpartum depression ~8 years ago.

So yeah me, the soon to be homeless guy, my sister who believes her kid and everyone else are demons and my autistic half-brother - who appears to have emigrated to somewhere or another - are supposed to throw some kind of worthy funeral. I think. Or maybe the state pops up and says "yeah you can't afford this so we're digging a hole somewhere and arranging the little church thing and all that shit", but I would'nt expect it.

For the first time in my life I feel as weird as I am, and its just massively impractical to the point where I've decided that once all the fires have been put out, I MUST change.
But right now... any perspectives and insights are welcome, because I'm almost paralyzed with confusion and worries... and you know, I've never sought help for anything. I don't want to be a burden to society or the people living in it, I don't want to steal time and resources from those who really need it. This means I actually don't have a damn clue what society has to offer when it comes to solving intricate puzzles.

Thats that. Thanks for reading this ventilation piece. Now I gotta go home to my dad (he has decided to die in his shitty apartment, probably because he can smoke cannabis there) and talk. Its ok, 5% old memories, 95% gallows humour; I'm saving sadness for when the moment comes.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
62,982
Chandlers Ford
Sorry to hear all this. that is an enormous weight for anyone to bear - regardless of their own mental state.

Here in England the first port of call would be the Citizen's Advice Bureau, I'd guess - who would hopefully point somebody in the direction of the relevant social services that could help them. Clueless as to what is on offer in Sweden, but genuinely I wish you all the best in solving it all, and coming out the other side x
 


BrightonCottager

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Sep 30, 2013
3,029
Brighton
I've never met you, Han, but I like the 2 Swedish people I ever met (a bonkers surfer in Trinidad who I used to surf hurricane swells with and a beautiful girl I met on Brighton beach within days of arriving here ...less said the better).

Sounds like a shit position you're in. I can't advise on emotional issues, but maybe start here for practical advice: https://www.begravningar.se/om-sbf/about-funerals-in-sweden/

Good luck and look after yourself.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
57,064
Burgess Hill
Really sorry to hear. Like most on here I expect I can't offer any advice on how to deal with the practical things there but there are no 'dealing with a shitshow' classes (I wish there was, I'd have dealt with some horrible stuff much better than I did) - just do what you think is right, and most importantly look after yourself.
 


Seagull on the Hill

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Jan 22, 2022
832
Wow, that's probably the saddest thing I've ever read on NSC.
I've not been too sympathetic towards you in the past, but obviously I didn't know the chaotic state of your life.
I don't know the answers to all the issues raised in your post, but, surely, there must be some State help with the funeral costs etc.
Have you spoken to your equivalent of Social services?
I hope you find the help you need to get your life in order, and I will try to be more sympathetic and understanding of any poster in future as none of us know what they might be going through
 




Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
11,019
Mate, that’s tough for you, and I wish you all the best. Sweden must have an equivalent to our Citizens Advice Bureau - there must, surely, be services to give you the advice you need.

Don’t shut yourself off from people close to you, though. It’s great that you have opened up here, but people close to home will be more helpful than you imagine. Never suffer in silence.

Solidarity.
 


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
40,157
West Sussex
But right now... any perspectives and insights are welcome, because I'm almost paralyzed with confusion and worries... and you know, I've never sought help for anything. I don't want to be a burden to society or the people living in it, I don't want to steal time and resources from those who really need it. This means I actually don't have a damn clue what society has to offer when it comes to solving intricate puzzles.

So sorry to hear of your troubles... at this moment you are the one who really needs it. I do hope you find a way to seek for and get the help and support you need.
 


The Optimist

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Apr 6, 2008
3,069
Lewisham
It sounds like you are a bit overwhelmed by the enormity of what to do when your dad dies. I think the key is / will be to break it down into smaller tasks and slowly tick the ones you feel that you can manage. Once you get a bit of momentum it might start to feel achievable.

Our government actually has some reasonably useful guidance. While it won’t be exactly the same in Sweden it might be a helpful checklist of things to consider:

 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
73,327
Total respect for sharing with us, my friend. It took a lot of balls to post that.

For what it's worth, I had to bury my dad when I was 18. My mum couldn't do it because she was still in hospital seriously ill after a drunk driver mowed both my parents down on the pavement. Believe you me, they don't prepare you for that shit in school in the UK, or probably anywhere else either. I think in the end an uncle I barely knew, and my dad's employers did much of the arranging. Don't be afraid to ask around family elders for assistance, and also your dad's (ex?) employer, and his friends. You'll find that help will maybe come from the least expected of places.

Take care and keep sharing 🫂
 








Flounce

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Nov 15, 2006
5,537
I need to vent somewhere and its going to have to be here. Sorry folks.

Well... this such a weird thing to post on a British football (well) forum with a bunch of people I've never met, but then that goes for a lot of things I post here.

If I post something on Facebook, too many people I know get too emotional, and I don't want to be a burden to anyone. I know many people struggle more with bad things in life, getting severe depressions and eating antidepressives or ceasing to exist or whatever, than I do. So I never/rarely talk about my own problems as I've got nearly insane coping mechanisms.
As a kiddo I was wild and violent, struggling to express myself. Was taken to a therapy school for two years and came out of it as something of a machine, able to turn every negative thought to a positive one and so forth. A life saver, but not always practical.

I also started smoking weed when I was 18. Not because I needed or wanted it but because all my friends did and they had such a good time, so why not. And it was lovely, especially the music.

As time went on, weed became more and more of my main coping mechanism. I remember a close friend dying from an MDMA overdose at Roskilde and when I was told about it I was so baked I only thought "ok this is sad but I'd like to not think about it" and that has been a solution for me whenever shit gets too hot to handle.
Now my father is dying.

He's only 62 but has been struggling with his health for 5+ years.

When he got a throat tumour in August or September last year he was considered having 1/3 of a chance of surviving it. Two weeks ago there was finally an end to this as a friend of my dad (he doesn't like sentimentality either) told me "Petter doesn't have long left. The doctors said 'weeks, not months'".

I said "Ok, not good". And obviously I've been staying away from the roughest emotions through various inner coping methods: "well, he doesn't like modern life anyway", "he's suffering so much, it'll be good for him to go", "once he dies I will carry on his memory through collecting his writings and publish it, he'd be happy with that". And so forth so forth.

Combined with a situation where I no longer get social welfare and cannot pay my rent, the situations are adding up and all this coping takes a lot of effort, ESPECIALLY since I've decided not to smoke any weed; I'm not going to watch my dad die and feel nothing and carry around that bad concious for the rest of my life.

Another mindfucker soon appeared: I realised I have absolutely no clue what to do when he dies.

Am I supposed to drag his dead body to the morgue myself? The vague Swedish bureacracy seems to think that I should be responsible for taking care of his belongings (value ca £0), the cleaning of his apartment, arranging the funeral. I wouldn't be surprised somewhere within these vague instructions includes "oh, and bring a shovel".

Probably doesn't work the same here as in UK but any of you have any experience of NOT knowing what to do in a situation like this? Or do people learn this in schools at some lesson I didn't attend?

I'm not his only kid though, so I'm also supposed to somehow involve my heavily autistic half-brother (who I haven't met since another relatives funeral 16 years ago, when my brother was 4) and my psychotic half-sister who is a shell of a human since her Postpartum depression ~8 years ago.

So yeah me, the soon to be homeless guy, my sister who believes her kid and everyone else are demons and my autistic half-brother - who appears to have emigrated to somewhere or another - are supposed to throw some kind of worthy funeral. I think. Or maybe the state pops up and says "yeah you can't afford this so we're digging a hole somewhere and arranging the little church thing and all that shit", but I would'nt expect it.

For the first time in my life I feel as weird as I am, and its just massively impractical to the point where I've decided that once all the fires have been put out, I MUST change.
But right now... any perspectives and insights are welcome, because I'm almost paralyzed with confusion and worries... and you know, I've never sought help for anything. I don't want to be a burden to society or the people living in it, I don't want to steal time and resources from those who really need it. This means I actually don't have a damn clue what society has to offer when it comes to solving intricate puzzles.

Thats that. Thanks for reading this ventilation piece. Now I gotta go home to my dad (he has decided to die in his shitty apartment, probably because he can smoke cannabis there) and talk. Its ok, 5% old memories, 95% gallows humour; I'm saving sadness for when the moment comes.
Really feel for you, but your gallows humour worked on me. “oh and bring a shovel” made me laugh in the middle of what is an incredibly sad post. I have no advice just wishing you all the best in what must be a really tough time for you. I am older than your dad and 62 really is no age these days :down:

You will get great compassion on here, but I guess you already know that. NSC is exactly the right place to post your sad thoughts :thumbsup:
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,174
Sorry if this sounds callous and I don't know what you dad is like but it seems like you could try to talk to him about it. All belongings and finances can be accessed by him at this point so there could be an element of getting his ducks in a row whilst he's still able.

Take care.
 








Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
5,728
Bognor Regis
I'm sorry to hear about what you are currently experiencing, well done for sharing your situation. Hopefully it helps in someway.

I don't know how the Swedish health system works and what services you are entitled to. But my first suggestion would be to go and visit your GP (local doctor).
Tell them what you've told us and ask them if there is any help they can offer and if there are any services that can provide support.

Reading between the lines, you're struggling financially, but do try and stay well physiologically also. Plenty of water, some decent nourishing food and some regular sleep. I would imagine there are some charities that can also provide support.

Keep posting on NSC, avoid the weed, and try not to get banned.
There are lots of us wishing you well.
 


sparkie

Neo-Luddite
Jul 17, 2003
13,421
Hove
Sorry to hear this.

The Internet throws up Medborgarkontor as some sort of advice service, although it seems to be targeted at immigrants. Maybe they have some pointers though.
 






raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
8,437
Wiltshire
Lots of good advice given already.
Google can be your friend:
- what to do when a relative dies
- will the government/ charity help pay for a funeral
- how can I get financial help to avoid homelessness
Those sort of questions, and sort through the answers (and no doubt the crass ads) to find something of use.
Remember, at this time, looking after yourself is actually the most important thing you can do.
Take Care. R
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
20,112
Sorry if this sounds callous and I don't know what you dad is like but it seems like you could try to talk to him about it. All belongings and finances can be accessed by him at this point so there could be an element of getting his ducks in a row whilst he's still able.

Take care.
Can I just echo this? It WILL help. A while ago we had a family member (not close, not distant) die, but they absolutely refused to believe they were dying and left a lot of mess to be cleared up. It sounds from what you say that your Dad is well aware of his situation and I'm sure he'll want to do the most he can to make the admin after his death as smooth as it can possibly be. Note I am just talking about the nuts and bolts Admin, (or 'Sadmin' as it is sometimes referred to), not the emotional side you'll have to negotiate.

And yes, I too laughed at the 'bring a shovel' line. Nothing wrong with a bit of gallows humour, especially if it helps you cope.

Finally, although you can occasionally rub people up the wrong way you ARE one of us now. Others have said that venting on here has helped them, so I hope it helps you. Keep posting.
 


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