[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Triggaaar · 2025-02-23T00:04:01+0000

lasvegan said:
I’m not aware of the US sending disposable munitions to Ukraine, enlighten me.

Further to this, from https://snyder.substack.com/p/recou...tm_medium=android&r=4shdhp&triedRedirect=true

"The US has committed, over three years, about $66 billion in humanitarian aid and about $119 billion in military aid. That second figure has to be examined a bit critically. Most of that money stayed in the United States, financing American factories in America and paying American workers. The rest of it was usually not money at all, but weapons, to which were assigned a dollar amount for accounting purposes. Most of the weapons that were actually sent to Ukraine were obsolescing and would never have been used by the United States in a conflict. Instead, they would have been dismantled and thrown away, at cost to the United States taxpayer."

jcdenton08 · 2025-02-23T00:04:57+0000

Ah, a brilliant weekend of football. Now back to the end of the world

Papa Lazarou · 2025-02-23T00:09:34+0000

This sums up where we are , I think

Hugo Rune · 2025-02-23T00:20:45+0000

spence said:
Marvellous. Love seeing huge convoys of Trump trucks at rallies. Listen to turning point usa.

Your type of woman?

Scappa · 2025-02-23T00:53:09+0000

Hugo Rune said:
Your type of woman?

Just when I thought I had my Tower Of London fantasy 11 sorted she come out with that

Triggaaar · 2025-02-23T10:15:13+0000

This is from 2022, but I missed it the first time around. Really disappointing to see how poorly the UK fairs. I've tried to teach my kids to use logic to work out if a story is true or not, but most won't. I think teaching kids to be able to identify fact from fiction should be part of the curriculum (I'm adding this here due to Trump constantly lying about, well, everything:

Klaas · 2025-02-23T10:25:36+0000

Triggaaar said:
This is from 2022, but I missed it the first time around. Really disappointing to see how poorly the UK fairs. I've tried to teach my kids to use logic to work out if a story is true or not, but most won't. I think teaching kids to be able to identify fact from fiction should be part of the curriculum (I'm adding this here due to Trump constantly lying about, well, everything:

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I agree. I think it's vital these days. It's just insane how normalised it has become to accept lies as par for the course.

There are many many reasons to despise Trump but just the fact that he denies the result of a fair election (and incited a riot over it) should be more than enough to disqualify him from running for president.

Greg Bobkin · 2025-02-23T10:39:25+0000

Triggaaar said:
This is from 2022, but I missed it the first time around. Really disappointing to see how poorly the UK fairs. I've tried to teach my kids to use logic to work out if a story is true or not, but most won't. I think teaching kids to be able to identify fact from fiction should be part of the curriculum (I'm adding this here due to Trump constantly lying about, well, everything:

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Yeah, but maybe those stats are 'fake news'...

Bakero · 2025-02-23T10:55:22+0000

Triggaaar said:
This is from 2022, but I missed it the first time around. Really disappointing to see how poorly the UK fairs. I've tried to teach my kids to use logic to work out if a story is true or not, but most won't. I think teaching kids to be able to identify fact from fiction should be part of the curriculum (I'm adding this here due to Trump constantly lying about, well, everything:

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Media studies should be a core subject in secondary schools

SouthSaxon · 2025-02-23T11:09:07+0000

Triggaaar said:
This is from 2022, but I missed it the first time around. Really disappointing to see how poorly the UK fairs. I've tried to teach my kids to use logic to work out if a story is true or not, but most won't. I think teaching kids to be able to identify fact from fiction should be part of the curriculum (I'm adding this here due to Trump constantly lying about, well, everything:

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There’s a crucial difference between the US and many European countries - the media Fairness Doctrine, which required outlets to cover both sides of an argument, was revoked under the Reagan government. This allows networks to take sides in either direction and leads to the rise of Fox et al.

European networks are required to provide balance. They don’t always get it right, and some try to push the boundaries, but there is a mechanism for accountability. This in itself raises awareness.

Social media is eating away at this. It badly needs bringing under some form of regulation, but this is tricky - are we all media outlets now?

Triggaaar · 2025-02-23T11:14:18+0000

SouthSaxon said:
There’s a crucial difference between the US and many European countries - the media Fairness Doctrine, which required outlets to cover both sides of an argument, was revoked under the Reagan government. This allows networks to take sides in either direction and leads to the rise of Fox et al.

Yes I know. They should really bring that law back.

BadFish · 2025-02-23T11:16:18+0000

SouthSaxon said:
There’s a crucial difference between the US and many European countries - the media Fairness Doctrine, which required outlets to cover both sides of an argument, was revoked under the Reagan government. This allows networks to take sides in either direction and leads to the rise of Fox et al.

European networks are required to provide balance. They don’t always get it right, and some try to push the boundaries, but there is a mechanism for accountability. This in itself raises awareness.

Social media is eating away at this. It badly needs bringing under some form of regulation, but this is tricky - are we all media outlets now?

I seem to remember reading something about the media problems in the US being worse because they don't have a public broadcaster. Again around the idea of providing more balance than privately owned media companies.

I guess this is why certain sections of the media always demonise the public broadcasters, not sure why so many buy into it though.

Nottseagull · 2025-02-23T11:49:15+0000

Quora

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SouthSaxon · 2025-02-23T11:56:38+0000

Would prefer to unsee that, I’m not gonna lie

Triggaaar · 2025-02-23T12:08:03+0000

BadFish said:
I seem to remember reading something about the media problems in the US being worse because they don't have a public broadcaster.

I think they do have public broadcasters, but not many people watch them. Fox is the most watched, then CNN, whereas in the UK, the BBC is easily the most watched.

astralavi · 2025-02-23T12:34:39+0000

Time is running out on democracy in the USA and therefore all democracy in the world. This authoritarian purge needs to be stopped but I cannot see how

spence · 2025-02-23T12:44:58+0000

astralavi said:
Time is running out on democracy in the USA and therefore all democracy in the world. This authoritarian purge needs to be stopped but I c

Democracy took place on november 5th where the republican party won in a landslide. What part of that you don't understand?
Even blue states swung to the right rather than going the other way. Trump absolutely destroyed it. Red states got redder.
Let that sink in.

spence · 2025-02-23T12:48:07+0000

Triggaaar said:
I think they do have public broadcasters, but not many people watch them. Fox is the most watched, then CNN, whereas in the UK, the BBC is easily the most watched.

Election night in America FOX won comfortably against other outlets but overall figures are still down. People are tuning into independent media more these days.

astralavi · 2025-02-23T12:49:56+0000

spence said:
Democracy took place on november 5th where the republican party won in a landslide. What part of that you don't understand?
Even blue states swung to the right rather than going the other way. Trump absolutely destroyed it. Red states got redder.
Let that sink in.

I'm sure you would say Trump should be dictator because that's the democratic will of the people

(btw not a landslide)

spence · 2025-02-23T12:56:56+0000

astralavi said:
I'm sure you would say Trump should be dictator because that's the democratic will of the people

(btw not a landslide)

You do know Harris never flipped one single county in the entire US ? Trust me it was a landslide. Trump increased his vote in every election unlike Obama who lost votes.
Trump's support from minorities was big for a republican leader. Fancy turning the most Hispanic county in the US red which hasn't voted Republican in over 200 years?
Don't believe everything you read in the Guardian. Trump's support is huge.

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