[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

papachris · 2025-02-22T18:46:58+0000

BBC News - I'll back Ukraine in talks with Trump, Starmer says

I'll back Ukraine in talks with Trump, Starmer tells Zelensky

The prime minister called Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky for the second time in four days.

www.bbc.com

peterward · 2025-02-22T18:55:13+0000

papachris said:
BBC News - I'll back Ukraine in talks with Trump, Starmer says

I'll back Ukraine in talks with Trump, Starmer tells Zelensky

The prime minister called Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky for the second time in four days.

www.bbc.com

As much as I hate the f**king Orange cretin, a personal invitation to a state banquet with King Charles, if Trump changes course may not go amiss.

He loves all the pomp and pageantry

fly high · 2025-02-22T19:00:04+0000

peterward said:
As much as I hate the f**king Orange cretin, a personal invitation to a state banquet with King Charles, if Trump changes course may not go amiss.

He loves all the pomp and pageantry

Got to be a major change of direction.

SouthSaxon · 2025-02-22T19:00:57+0000

peterward said:
As much as I hate the f**king Orange cretin, a personal invitation to a state banquet with King Charles, if Trump changes course may not go amiss.

He loves all the pomp and pageantry

Yeah, it’s a smart play whatever else we do, he loves the monarchy and was desperate to meet the Queen in his first term.

Charlie might have to pucker up and take one for the team.

Or we could offer Prince Andrew on a permanent loan.

Eric the meek · 2025-02-22T19:06:04+0000

peterward said:
As much as I hate the f**king Orange cretin, a personal invitation to a state banquet with King Charles, if Trump changes course may not go amiss.

He loves all the pomp and pageantry

I like it. Bribe him with the endorsement of royal approval. Horse drawn carriage, the works.

marlowe · 2025-02-22T19:14:16+0000

papachris said:
BBC News - I'll back Ukraine in talks with Trump, Starmer says

I'll back Ukraine in talks with Trump, Starmer tells Zelensky

The prime minister called Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky for the second time in four days.

www.bbc.com

Protestors in London marching from the Ukrainian Embassy to the Russian Embassy to mark the third anniversary of the invasion.

I think it would have been appropriate to do a stop off at the US Embassy on the way.

marlowe · 2025-02-22T19:17:36+0000

peterward said:
As much as I hate the f**king Orange cretin, a personal invitation to a state banquet with King Charles, if Trump changes course may not go amiss.

He loves all the pomp and pageantry

Although given his behaviour during his previous visit the pomp and pageantry aren't so keen on him

peterward · 2025-02-22T19:18:20+0000

This NYT article just shows the extent of Trumps massive attempted grift and rape of the victim nation, no security guarantees, he wants 500B in a fund now, even though US total aid so far is circa 130B and its not just from rare earth minerals, he also wants 50% from all ports, gas and oil, , he wants 66% of anything in Russian controlled Ukraine. And there's no clear undertaking on how Ukraine may profit at all.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/world/europe/ukraine-trump-minerals.html

it wasn't paywalled for me, but will add non paywalled underneath just in case

https://archive.is/dRO8t

Bodian · 2025-02-22T19:23:50+0000

peterward said:
This NYT article just shows the extent of Trumps massive attempted grift and rape of the victim nation, no security guarantees, he wants 500B in a fund now, even though US total aid so far is circa 130B and its not just from rare earth minerals, he also wants 50% from all ports, gas and oil, , he wants 66% of anything in Russian controlled Ukraine. And there's no clear undertaking on how Ukraine may profit at all.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/world/europe/ukraine-trump-minerals.html

it wasn't paywalled for me, but will add non paywalled underneath just in case

https://archive.is/dRO8t

Surely they can't sign that sort of 'deal'? It's pure asset stripping.

A1X · 2025-02-22T19:25:01+0000

Eric the meek said:
I like it. Bribe him with the endorsement of royal approval. Horse drawn carriage, the works.

Open top horse drawn carriage

If that happens, there are a couple of Tesco Metro shops in the area which sell eggs

armchairclubber · 2025-02-22T19:43:25+0000

SouthSaxon said:
Yeah, it’s a smart play whatever else we do, he loves the monarchy and was desperate to meet the Queen in his first term.

Charlie might have to pucker up and take one for the team.

Or we could offer Prince Andrew on a permanent loan.

Now that has made me chuckle, though anyone who takes it seriously I have to worry about.

marlowe · 2025-02-22T19:43:48+0000

Bodian said:
Surely they can't sign that sort of 'deal'? It's pure asset stripping.

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So he basically wants to do more or less the same as what Putin wants to do to Ukraine but without the need for any invasion or killing. That's very nice of him. And if Ukraine doesn't agree to it he'll leave Ukraine to deal with the Russian way of doing things.

SouthSaxon · 2025-02-22T19:44:10+0000

peterward said:
This NYT article just shows the extent of Trumps massive attempted grift and rape of the victim nation, no security guarantees, he wants 500B in a fund now, even though US total aid so far is circa 130B and its not just from rare earth minerals, he also wants 50% from all ports, gas and oil, , he wants 66% of anything in Russian controlled Ukraine. And there's no clear undertaking on how Ukraine may profit at all.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/world/europe/ukraine-trump-minerals.html

it wasn't paywalled for me, but will add non paywalled underneath just in case

https://archive.is/dRO8t

So now they want half of basically everything, not just minerals. They’re offering a slow death at US hands and threatening a quick death at Putin’s hands if they don’t agree to it.

This is treachery, pure and simple.

peterward · 2025-02-22T19:46:31+0000

SouthSaxon said:
So now they want half of basically everything, not just minerals. They’re offering a slow death at US hands and threatening a quick death at Putin’s hands if they don’t agree to it.

This is treachery, pure and simple.

Yep...

This twitter/X thread summarises Trumps attempted exploitation and economic rape very well.

SouthSaxon · 2025-02-22T19:49:43+0000

peterward said:
Yep...

This twitter/X thread summarises Trumps attempted exploitation and economic rape very well.

Is there a non-Twatter copy of this thread somewhere? Would like to read the full thread but I deleted my account on there a few months ago and there’s no way I’m going back.

(Without an account, only the linked Tweet is accessible, without any comments)

Bodian · 2025-02-22T19:51:21+0000

And how will this 'deal' bring about peace? I can't see how it does that at all. Putin isn't going to suddenly stop fighting just because the US have made a huge profit?

Eric the meek · 2025-02-22T19:51:52+0000

Is all this really happening? Can someone please confirm?

To try to asset strip, with no end date, a nation that has been ravaged by an invasion by a brutal aggressor.
It should be Russia being asset stripped, not Ukraine.

There aren't the words in the English language to adequately describe what I think of this.

Triggaaar · 2025-02-22T19:52:43+0000

peterward said:
If you cut off Starlink that helps Russia destabilise Ukraine and Europe, we will ban both X and Tesla in Europe.

I would like to see that.

Try and speak to some adults from the US side, and ask if they're basically declaring war on Europe (with their support of Russia)

Eric the meek · 2025-02-22T19:52:57+0000

SouthSaxon said:
Is there a non-Twatter copy of this thread somewhere? Would like to read the full thread but I deleted my account on there a few months ago and there’s no way I’m going back.

(Without an account, only the linked Tweet is accessible, without any comments)

I can see the comments on my phone, but not my laptop.

peterward · 2025-02-22T19:53:57+0000

SouthSaxon said:
Is there a non-Twatter copy of this thread somewhere? Would like to read the full thread but I deleted my account on there a few months ago and there’s no way I’m going back.

(Without an account, only the linked Tweet is accessible, without any comments)

Not all comments but this is whats written, it's not that long.

Thread By @Mylovanov - Let me break it down to you The US deal ..

Let me break it down to you The US deal for Ukraine a strategic ally 1 Ukraine pays 50 of its oil gas and mineral revenues to the US fund 2 until the

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