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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,233
Just far enough away from LDC
I agree with everything you say, but would push back slightly on the “decades” when it comes to the Democrats. Obama was a genuinely strong and charismatic leader, and I think Biden could have been great had he got a chance much earlier (say 2008)

You're right absolutely right though. How was there no strong successor in place in more recent years? - Everyone knew Trump would be back.
Clinton wasn't a bad candidate and would have been a good president. She lost to obama but served alongside him.

Sanders was a risk, a sound politician but like Tony Benn a great orator but maybe not a great consensus politician.

You are right re Biden being 4 years too late. If harris had known 2 years earlier that Biden wouldn't have stood she would have been better prepared and framed a different position than she had to stand on.

Buttigieg would be great as would be Shapiro but the former being gay will stand against him as did being a woman against harris and clinton
 








vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,370
Great to hear Starmer has phoned Zelensky and backed his position. If/when Starmer goes to Washington he MUST tell Trump how it is. If they do a joint press conference and Trump riffs some more ludicrous crap, Starmer MUST call it out for the bullshit it is.

He has to stand there, next to Trump, and say " Russia started this, Russia commited War Crimes, Americans died and are buried in Europe for standing against tyranny and that is what we face today from Russia. " ..as a barrister, rip Trump to shreds on live TV, tell Americans the truth and dismantle their President's lies. Don't be a lap dog , speak truth to power, we can't ignore lies anymore.
 


Fignon's Ponytail

Well-known member
Jun 29, 2012
4,591
On the Beach
Seeing more and more of these kind of posts on CNN / ABC posts etc. Shameful.
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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,227
Clinton wasn't a bad candidate and would have been a good president. She lost to obama but served alongside him.

Sanders was a risk, a sound politician but like Tony Benn a great orator but maybe not a great consensus politician.

You are right re Biden being 4 years too late. If harris had known 2 years earlier that Biden wouldn't have stood she would have been better prepared and framed a different position than she had to stand on.

Buttigieg would be great as would be Shapiro but the former being gay will stand against him as did being a woman against harris and clinton
if Harris had been a more competent politican with some foresight, she'd have seen Biden was coming up short, prepared and built a base. the VP is expected to be a President in waiting, from very early on people in the party said they'd made an error.
 


BN41Albion

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2017
7,043
It's also so dangerous as there's Orban in Hungary that Trump will be further emboldening, as well as a host of far right parties across Europe absolutely loving his rhetoric, including the AfD in Germany, with elections upcoming too 😡
@spence just once, please explain the laughing emoji on this? What in your little mind is so hilarious about this?
 






Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
27,282
@spence just once, please explain the laughing emoji on this? What in your little mind is so hilarious about this?
@spence will eventually be banned from Trump threads once @Bozza and co see all he does is place laughing emojis (111 so far this year) and hardly ever place comments. Having a different opinion is fine, but constant laughing emojis is trolling.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,624
Location Location
Great to hear Starmer has phoned Zelensky and backed his position. If/when Starmer goes to Washington he MUST tell Trump how it is. If they do a joint press conference and Trump riffs some more ludicrous crap, Starmer MUST call it out for the bullshit it is.

He has to stand there, next to Trump, and say " Russia started this, Russia commited War Crimes, Americans died and are buried in Europe for standing against tyranny and that is what we face today from Russia. " ..as a barrister, rip Trump to shreds on live TV, tell Americans the truth and dismantle their President's lies. Don't be a lap dog , speak truth to power, we can't ignore lies anymore.
Trump is a petulant child who will never accept receiving home truths - just look at his utterly insane reaction to Zelensky calling it as it is, that Trump is "trapped in a Russian disinformation bubble". Much as there would be some satisfaction to see Starmer shred Trump on live TV, all it would achieve is Trump doubling-down on his lunacy.

GB is not a big player in all this. Starmer can make the right noises, but sadly it will have zero influence on the Orange Shitler, as I saw him referred to on here earlier. He'll literally do whatever the f*ck he wants.

As for referencing the Americans who fought and died and are buried in Europe for standing against tyranny - Trump (who dodged the draft 5 times during the Vietnam war) once referred to them as "losers". He's not the full ticket.
 






GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
50,334
Gloucester
Trump is a petulant child who will never accept receiving home truths - just look at his utterly insane reaction to Zelensky calling it as it is, that Trump is "trapped in a Russian disinformation bubble". Much as there would be some satisfaction to see Starmer shred Trump on live TV, all it would achieve is Trump doubling-down on his lunacy.

GB is not a big player in all this. Starmer can make the right noises, but sadly it will have zero influence on the Orange Shitler, as I saw him referred to on here earlier. He'll literally do whatever the f*ck he wants.

As for referring to the Americans who fought and died and are buried in Europe for standing against tyranny - Trump referred to them as "losers". He's not the full ticket.
Yes, the c**t won't change his mind, neither will most of the sheep following him, but every little chink helps. Go Starmer - embarrass the c**t on national TV live if you get the chance!
 






Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,624
Location Location
Yes, the c**t won't change his mind, neither will most of the sheep following him, but every little chink helps. Go Starmer - embarrass the c**t on national TV live if you get the chance!
Yeah, I certainly wouldn't want to see SKS go over there and cow-tow to the Commander-in-Thief. But I think Trump is just too much of an epic deranged narcissist to ever feel or understand the concept of embarrassment. A very strange, dangerous man.
 


Billy in Bristol

Well-known member
Mar 25, 2004
1,543
Bristol
Great to hear Starmer has phoned Zelensky and backed his position. If/when Starmer goes to Washington he MUST tell Trump how it is. If they do a joint press conference and Trump riffs some more ludicrous crap, Starmer MUST call it out for the bullshit it is.

He has to stand there, next to Trump, and say " Russia started this, Russia commited War Crimes, Americans died and are buried in Europe for standing against tyranny and that is what we face today from Russia. " ..as a barrister, rip Trump to shreds on live TV, tell Americans the truth and dismantle their President's lies. Don't be a lap dog , speak truth to power, we can't ignore lies anymore.
He needs to go all Hugh Grant to his Billy Bob Thornton - Love Actually Style.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
58,332
Faversham
@spence

New Year stats buddy:

26 posts on all threads of NSC (16 this thread)
111 laughing emojis

I think it's down on last week. You did manage one post though 'The fooking Guardian. Give me a break'. Seven works, correct spelling, sanitised swear word. Impressive.

Bit of a half time distraction from the adverts. So cheers.
Why bother being a member of a football forum if all you plan to do is be a prick?

Das Reich with fewer words.

Pathetic.

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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
58,332
Faversham
if Harris had been a more competent politican with some foresight, she'd have seen Biden was coming up short, prepared and built a base. the VP is expected to be a President in waiting, from very early on people in the party said they'd made an error.
Yep. Harris was never the answer.
 




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