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[Albion] The Chelsea wins.....and reactions to them.



Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
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I don’t have a ‘position’, even less one that needs validation. The FACT that we have/had multiple Fab Out threads with numerous posters stating they’re’out’, with their reasons in some cases, means there were plenty calling for his head :shrug:
Plenty like me realised that the forest game was a turning point.

Being Huerzeler out at that point, is not the same as calling for his immediate sacking.
 






Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
13,062
Hurzeler out where then, to the shop?
Really?

You can't see the difference In a poll result and people bothering to type a post stating " I want him out of his job now".

Must be terrible living in your binary world.

But well done for being an user fan.
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Nah, they are having night terrors thinking that 5 wins out of 7 is just a dead cat bounce. It's div 2 in successive seasons, then eventually a local derby against Haywards Heath.
Although the local derbies with Whitehawk and Lewes would come first.
 






jcdenton08

Joel Veltman Fan Club
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Oct 17, 2008
16,091
Being honest, the outbursts and behaviour after the Forest game painted many users to me in a different (much worse) light. A number of people went on ignore for their absolute hysteria and completely made up bollocks.

I said at the start of the season, a top ten finish and a cup run would be a good return for a new coach and coming off the back of a terrible finish to last season.

Absolutely nothing has changed. Nothing changed in my views when get got pumped by Forest, nor after Friday’s pumping of Chelsea.

The way I see it, if a poster can be so incredibly OTT in their reactions to a defeat (manager out, slagging all our players, even our owner), how could they possibly be taken seriously going forward.

I don’t want to hear how “I was Fab out, now I’m not so sure”. If you were Fab out, you were incredibly deluded about our season already.

Why would I want to hear someone who is so ridiculous in their views talk about music, politics or anything substantial, let alone their incredibly lacking understanding of football.

We will have bad results again (hopefully not as bad as that one, but bad all the same). Because we aren’t a top side. Changing the manager after a defeat wouldn’t have made us into a top side.

I think this a large chunk of people in this place have been absolutely embarrassing to be honest.
 






Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
7,973
Being honest, the outbursts and behaviour after the Forest game painted many users to me in a different (much worse) light. A number of people went on ignore for their absolute hysteria and completely made up bollocks.

I said at the start of the season, a top ten finish and a cup run would be a good return for a new coach and coming off the back of a terrible finish to last season.

Absolutely nothing has changed. Nothing changed in my views when get got pumped by Forest, nor after Friday’s pumping of Chelsea.

The way I see it, if a poster can be so incredibly OTT in their reactions to a defeat (manager out, slagging all our players, even our owner), how could they possibly be taken seriously going forward.

I don’t want to hear how “I was Fab out, now I’m not so sure”. If you were Fab out, you were incredibly deluded about our season already.

Why would I want to hear someone who is so ridiculous in their views talk about music, politics or anything substantial, let alone their incredibly lacking understanding of football.

We will have bad results again (hopefully not as bad as that one, but bad all the same). Because we aren’t a top side. Changing the manager after a defeat wouldn’t have made us into a top side.

I think this a large chunk of people in this place have been absolutely embarrassing to be honest.
So in effect, what you're saying is bedwetters, f*** off'?
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,933
Really?

You can't see the difference In a poll result and people bothering to type a post stating " I want him out of his job now".

Must be terrible living in your binary world.

But well done for being an user fanfan
I genuinely don't know what people would mean. If you state that your opinion is 'Fab out', then I'm assuming that meant those people wanted him not to be the manager anymore (as in out of the club).

If that's NOT what people wanted, they would vote 'fence', no? Otherwise, what is it that they want him out of?

I'm not trying to be a dick - and maybe I'm am a 'binary' thinker - but I tend to take what people say or post at face value.
 


Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
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A bit of context.

After having convincingly beaten Chelsea, Mitoma scoring a worldie, Minteh skinning Cucurella twice, and Chelsea fans singing 'Roman Abramovich', I'm looking forward to today's relegation scrap between Spurs and Man Utd.
 




The Mole

Well-known member
Feb 20, 2004
1,448
Bowdon actually , Cheshire
A bit of context.

After having convincingly beaten Chelsea, Mitoma scoring a worldie, Minteh skinning Cucurella twice, and Chelsea fans singing 'Roman Abramovich', I'm looking forward to today's relegation scrap between Spurs and Man Utd.
It does feel a bit like a win-win game. I always enjoy United losing, but if Spuds lose then I can see their panic going into overdrive. A draw isn’t much consolation to either team
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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A bit of context.

After having convincingly beaten Chelsea, Mitoma scoring a worldie, Minteh skinning Cucurella twice, and Chelsea fans singing 'Roman Abramovich', I'm looking forward to today's relegation scrap between Spurs and Man Utd.
Not to mention Palace losing for a singing the blues weekend. But every fan can enjoy that.

To be honest, this is the big high to the Forest big low at the moment. Many on here are almost bi polar and that’s simply how being a football fan affects some.

These “olive branch” threads are just as bad as the out threads. Each will get bounced every time there’s a noticeably good or bad result. “I was right”. “No, I was right”. Yawn. Especially if you have an ego the size of Sweden.
 


Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
13,062
I genuinely don't know what people would mean. If you state that your opinion is 'Fab out', then I'm assuming that meant those people wanted him not to be the manager anymore (as in out of the club).

If that's NOT what people wanted, they would vote 'fence', no? Otherwise, what is it that they want him out of?

I'm not trying to be a dick - and maybe I'm am a 'binary' thinker - but I tend to take what people say or post at face value.
My original response was to a claim that plenty on here were "calling for his head".

Voting on a poll, is not the same as calling for a manager to be sacked,
Voting OUT, is for most people, the same as picking 0-3 on a mojo-meter poll.
That certainly isn't a ringing endorsement or a fence position.
It also isn't "get this loser out of my club now" statement either.

I have been on the fence all season, because even within the good results, we really haven't been that good for 90 minutes, and some of Fab's decisions have been ludicrous.
I simply haven't been convinced that what he is trying to do is getting through to the players.

The tactical decision at Forest was such an obvious and arrogant mistake, that flipped me from fence to out (for polling purposes).
And to move me back to fence, I needed an immediate reaction.

The result has clearly led to some frank discussions between coaches and players.
The last two games aren't a result of "trusting the process". Far from it.
The reaction has come from the coach being big enough to say , "Yep I f***ed up" to the players, which isn't what he said after the game.
I suspect that has led to the players being able to speak freely about what they felt isn't working as well as putting their hands up on their failings.

All power to him for that.
I hope it continues, and can move back to a consolidated fence and hopefully back to a much more familiar licker position.
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,746
Hove
My original response was to a claim that plenty on here were "calling for his head".

Voting on a poll, is not the same as calling for a manager to be sacked,
Voting OUT, is for most people, the same as picking 0-3 on a mojo-meter poll.
That certainly isn't a ringing endorsement or a fence position.
It also isn't "get this loser out of my club now" statement either.

I have been on the fence all season, because even within the good results, we really haven't been that good for 90 minutes, and some of Fab's decisions have been ludicrous.
I simply haven't been convinced that what he is trying to do is getting through to the players.

The tactical decision at Forest was such an obvious and arrogant mistake, that flipped me from fence to out (for polling purposes).
And to move me back to fence, I needed an immediate reaction.

The result has clearly led to some frank discussions between coaches and players.
The last two games aren't a result of "trusting the process". Far from it.
The reaction has come from the coach being big enough to say , "Yep I f***ed up" to the players, which isn't what he said after the game.
I suspect that has led to the players being able to speak freely about what they felt isn't working as well as putting their hands up on their failings.

All power to him for that.
I hope it continues, and can move back to a consolidated fence and hopefully back to a much more familiar licker position.
I never knew this.

I honestly thought on a manager poll ‘out’ meant out, like sack him out, not out meant mojo 0-3.

Maybe any future polls need a Micky Flanagan option:
Out out
Out
Fence
In
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,933
My original response was to a claim that plenty on here were "calling for his head".

Voting on a poll, is not the same as calling for a manager to be sacked,
Voting OUT, is for most people, the same as picking 0-3 on a mojo-meter poll.
That certainly isn't a ringing endorsement or a fence position.
It also isn't "get this loser out of my club now" statement either.

I have been on the fence all season, because even within the good results, we really haven't been that good for 90 minutes, and some of Fab's decisions have been ludicrous.
I simply haven't been convinced that what he is trying to do is getting through to the players.

The tactical decision at Forest was such an obvious and arrogant mistake, that flipped me from fence to out (for polling purposes).
And to move me back to fence, I needed an immediate reaction.

The result has clearly led to some frank discussions between coaches and players.
The last two games aren't a result of "trusting the process". Far from it.
The reaction has come from the coach being big enough to say , "Yep I f***ed up" to the players, which isn't what he said after the game.
I suspect that has led to the players being able to speak freely about what they felt isn't working as well as putting their hands up on their failings.

All power to him for that.
I hope it continues, and can move back to a consolidated fence and hopefully back to a much more familiar licker position.
Sorry, I can't get past someone voting 'OUT' on a poll, but still effectively wanting that person to be 'IN'.

If you don't mean 'OUT' - like REALLY mean out - then you're on the fence (a fence that is wide enough to incorporate a range of opinions).

It's like ordering something in a restaurant that you don't want. Or voting for Brexit when you still want to be in the EU. You can't blame people for not getting it, even if it is a binary choice.

Anyway, I'm obsessing over things that, quite frankly, I shouldn't, so I'll leave it there.

Up The Facking Albion - whoever is in charge

Hastag Trust The Process.

Xx
 


The Optimist

Well-known member
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Apr 6, 2008
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Lewisham
I never knew this.

I honestly thought on a manager poll ‘out’ meant out, like sack him out, not out meant mojo 0-3.

Maybe any future polls need a Micky Flanagan option:
Out out
Out
Fence
In
I’m with you. I took an out vote to be exactly the same as calling for the managers head.

Perhaps this was the problem with the Brexit vote, people didn’t really mean they wanted to leave the EU just that their EU mojo was low.
 




Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
7,973
I never knew this.

I honestly thought on a manager poll ‘out’ meant out, like sack him out, not out meant mojo 0-3.

Maybe any future polls need a Micky Flanagan option:
Out out
Out
Fence
In
Additional categories might be:

Half in, half out.
Neither in, nor out.
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
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Mar 27, 2013
56,956
Burgess Hill
Sorry, I can't get past someone voting 'OUT' on a poll, but still effectively wanting that person to be 'IN'.

If you don't mean 'OUT' - like REALLY mean out - then you're on the fence (a fence that is wide enough to incorporate a range of opinions).

It's like ordering something in a restaurant that you don't want. Or voting for Brexit when you still want to be in the EU. You can't blame people for not getting it, even if it is a binary choice.

Anyway, I'm obsessing over things that, quite frankly, I shouldn't, so I'll leave it there.

Up The Facking Albion - whoever is in charge

Hastag Trust The Process.

Xx
Um…yeah….when I voted out I didn’t mean out, even though there was a ‘fence’ option :laugh:
 


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