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[Politics] Brexit - 9 years on, time for a poll ?
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portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Thunder Bolt
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Expat used to apply for those who worked abroad for British based companies or armed forces, but returned when their work had finished.
My ex worked in Saudi for two years for British Aerospace. He didn't emigrate there.
People who buy homes (apart from a holiday home) are immigrants.
My ex worked in Saudi for two years for British Aerospace. He didn't emigrate there.
People who buy homes (apart from a holiday home) are immigrants.
nicko31
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The latest episode of "Sergi and the Westminster Spy Ring" touches nicely on the Russia links to referendum and how Johnson blocked the infamous Russia report.
New material here, ignored of course by the ring wing media
New material here, ignored of course by the ring wing media
- Jul 10, 2003
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Whether people want to vote is completely up to them, but I don't believe I would get any better idea of what people think by asking them to vote anonymously 'who has changed their minds and in what direction'.
I know that you (and some 'people') get irritated whenever I post about Brexit, but myself and other 'people' also get irritated every year that another £100B gets wiped off Britain's GDP, public services are cut further and taxes increase because people won't talk about it. And I'd suggest that of those who expressed an opinion 65% - 35% is rather more than a few people dying off.
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I do indeed get irritated whenever you post about Brexit because of the way you do it. It's not constructive, rarely informative, and 95% of the time simply turns into petty bickering with a boring smug cretin who thinks giving a thumbsup in lieu of rational explanation of his point of view is remotely satisfactory. What is the point? You can't win an argument with an ignoramus, so why bother?
By the way, I also get irritated every year that another £100B that gets wiped off Britain's GDP - just like you do. The two sources of irritation aren't mutually exclusive. I wish they were.
Rdodge30
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That, and the fact that he got elected on a manifesto saying he wouldn't. And I agree that he should ignore the manifesto and do it
Firstly, wow just wow! In order to get what you think is best you are ok with Government’s ‘ignoring their manifesto’ how undemocratic is that!
Secondly, the rejoinders all seem to think that the UK will end up better off if we rejoin because we were better off before we left. The UK will be held to ransom to rejoin, will have virtually no say in the terms to rejoin and whilst it may well be better than where we are now it almost certainly will not be a return to the halcyon days of a decade ago.
They hold ALL the cards and rejoining will be painful not pretty .. the very first thing we will have to submit to is the remains of our fishing rights and it won’t end there
I haven’t voted because it is truly beyond my comprehension as to which of those options would represent the best path as I have no idea how the EU will respond to us rejoining in any form at all my hunch is that we would be punished not welcomed with open arms I voted remain, Brexit has been an economic disaster I have my doubts whether rejoining will be anything like life before Brexit
But as for you advocating politicians lie to gain power. Shocked not shocked if you know what I mean
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The only reason things are bad is because of Two Tier Kier
Edit: I should "of" put that all in parenthesis, perhaps
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nicko31
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Must admit the £30B "project fear" blackhole predicted by Osborne in 2016 seems remarkably optimistic and off the mark
Setting the real world to one side the problem you have is that many people on this forum think you’re a bit of a plonker with too much time on his hands, i think your valid fwiw but many don’t, the minute you make the voting anonymous many will jump onboard and vote for whatever fucks your silly survey up which of course is why you do it, oh and of course to see if you can catch a few herrings on the end of your line, btw had a very pleasant break for coffee in the Dyke Road Cafe today
Precisely.
Starmer already knows that, but there is no point stating it, though.
Badenough would pile in accusing Starmer of being frightened to do the right thing because he knows it will lose him votes.
I heard her today accusing Labour of presiding over an asylum loophole.
One that was, errr, introduced by the last tory government.
Of which she was a member*
*8Or 'tool' as it is sometimes known.
US Seagull
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What a shitshow. If only anybody had warned the public of the dangers of leaving...
This is actually the real bias in mainstream reporting. They are so afraid of being labeled as biased, that they both sides issues even when one side is clearly crazy pants wrong. See just about every political debate anymore.
The sad part is that Britain should absolutely, 100% rejoin the EU as soon as possible. Especially with the US being an unreliable partner (to put it mildly) for the next 4 years. Unless you're up for President Musk's stormtroopers to come liberate you and make you the 50 whateverth state. But since it is unlikely you'll be able to rejoin with the same deals and concessions as last time, the Eurosceptics will howl at the moon when the EU requires accepting the Euro as a condition for rejoining. Despite it being their f***ing fault in the first place.
This is actually the real bias in mainstream reporting. They are so afraid of being labeled as biased, that they both sides issues even when one side is clearly crazy pants wrong. See just about every political debate anymore.
The sad part is that Britain should absolutely, 100% rejoin the EU as soon as possible. Especially with the US being an unreliable partner (to put it mildly) for the next 4 years. Unless you're up for President Musk's stormtroopers to come liberate you and make you the 50 whateverth state. But since it is unlikely you'll be able to rejoin with the same deals and concessions as last time, the Eurosceptics will howl at the moon when the EU requires accepting the Euro as a condition for rejoining. Despite it being their f***ing fault in the first place.
We voted to leave, ok most of us didn't but the vote went that way. We can't rejoin on the previous terms, that ship has sailed. With more right wing governments across Europe, I suspect we wont be the only country to leave so what is left possibly wouldn't be something we would want to join anyway.
The best we can do is to try and join the Customs Union.
The best we can do is to try and join the Customs Union.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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If (IF!) people still need someone to blame, then blame Cameron and the tories. But nothing to be gained by that, utterly pointless 9 (NINE!) years later. My preference would be to make the best of instead and jettison the negative Nellie’s still harking on about after all this time eg if people are able to and want to move into the EU because of, then that will free up space for all the immigrants desperate to come here, so every cloud and all that!
No they haven't.
They have done what was required to see the Tories booted out.
Talking down Labour will serve only one interest - the return to power of the Tories.
Here is a test.
I have him on ignore so I don't know:
Has Potty* been posting on how much he supports and admires Starmer for not giving us another Brexit referendum?
*@Is it PotG?
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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I largely agree.Firstly, wow just wow! In order to get what you think is best you are ok with Government’s ‘ignoring their manifesto’ how undemocratic is that!
Secondly, the rejoinders all seem to think that the UK will end up better off if we rejoin because we were better off before we left. The UK will be held to ransom to rejoin, will have virtually no say in the terms to rejoin and whilst it may well be better than where we are now it almost certainly will not be a return to the halcyon days of a decade ago.
They hold ALL the cards and rejoining will be painful not pretty .. the very first thing we will have to submit to is the remains of our fishing rights and it won’t end there
I haven’t voted because it is truly beyond my comprehension as to which of those options would represent the best path as I have no idea how the EU will respond to us rejoining in any form at all my hunch is that we would be punished not welcomed with open arms I voted remain, Brexit has been an economic disaster I have my doubts whether rejoining will be anything like life before Brexit
But as for you advocating politicians lie to gain power. Shocked not shocked if you know what I mean
If you leave a partner, bickering over the possessions and the debts, making random threats, and explaining the reason (fat and useless) then despite the extent of the remorse and regret, the prospects of a harmonious reconciliation are slim to none.