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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,105
Economic benefits after 14 days? Let’s see where we’re at after 14 months. Yes, still team Trump, the last 4 years were a complete debacle, and the Democrat Party is currently an utterly shambolic mess, seemingly run by the clinically insane. Who is their leader?


Hopefully the Mexican Military can reign in the cartels somehow. They are truly evil people costing tens of thousands of American lives annually, not to to mention the suffering of the child and sex trafficking victims.

Thank you for the kind words, the most sensible of the dumbest of the dumb I’ll take as the compliment it was meant…😏
Thanks for your answer, that makes sense to me.

Am I to infer from you answer that if the economic benefits are not short coming you will jump off team Trump?

And another question of you will indulge me. How do you feel about the litany of insanity (as others would view it) presented in the last 14 days?
 




lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,282
Sin City
Thanks for your answer, that makes sense to me.

Am I to infer from you answer that if the economic benefits are not short coming you will jump off team Trump?

And another question of you will indulge me. How do you feel about the litany of insanity (as others would view it) presented in the last 14 days?
Economic benefits are never short coming, it’s an impossibility. What do you consider the litany of insanity is?

I may have known this but have forgotten. Where are you from, or currently live?
 


Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
20,424
Indiana, USA
Economic benefits are never short coming, it’s an impossibility. What do you consider the litany of insanity is?

I may have known this but have forgotten. Where are you from, or currently live?

Deflecting again. Las Vegasing didn't answer your question about whether he would abandon team Trump if the economic benefits don't come within 14 months. Just some garbage about it takes time, I wonder how Las Vegasing judged Biden after 14 months.
 


lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,282
Sin City
Deflecting again. Las Vegasing didn't answer your question about whether he would abandon team Trump if the economic benefits don't come within 14 months. Just some garbage about it takes time, I wonder how Las Vegasing judged Biden after 14 months.
Biden after 14 months was a disaster. Inflation was rampant, you lived it. Besides, you’re misquoting me.
 
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BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,105
Economic benefits are never short coming, it’s an impossibility. What do you consider the litany of insanity is?

I may have known this but have forgotten. Where are you from, or currently live?
Sorry auto correct, I meant forthcoming. If you don't see the financial benefits in that 14 months.

The litany of insanity is the stuff he has done so far. For example:
- Tarrifs on Canada etc
- Suggesting that a bishop calling for mercy was a wrong un.
- Leaving the WHO
- phoning the Danish PM and demanding Greenland with menaces
- leaving the Paris agreement.
-scrapping inclusion programs and making it mandatory to report anyone that is complaining about it.
- stopping all government grants and/payments while they review them.
- Having 13 billionaires in his government (one of which may or may not have done a nazi salute, but certainly has iffy ties with far right groups.

Do I need to go on?

Marshy asked a question in post #10,828 that led to a pretty comprehensive list of the stuff many people have problems with, so by all means refer to that too.
 
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n1 gull

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Jul 25, 2003
4,678
Hurstpierpoint
Sorry auto correct, I meant forthcoming. If you don't see the financial benefits in that 14 months.

The litany of insanity is the stuff he has done so far. For example:
- Tarrifs on Canada etc
- Suggesting that a bishop calling for mercy was a wrong un.
- Leaving the WHO
- phoning the Danish PM and demanding Greenland with menaces
- leaving the Paris agreement.
-scrapping inclusion programs and making it mandatory to report anyone that is complaining about it.
- stopping all government grants and/payments while they review them.
- Having 13 billionaires in his government (one of which may or may not have done a nazi salute, but certainly has iffy ties with far right groups.

Do I need to go on?
I wish we would leave the WHO, Paris agreements and stop all DEI programs

Mad Ed is going to bankrupt the country with his net zero nonsense

Biden's first action was to pull the troops out of Afganistan
Imagine if Trump had done that?
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,105
I wish we would leave the WHO, Paris agreements and stop all DEI programs

Mad Ed is going to bankrupt the country with his net zero nonsense

Biden's first action was to pull the troops out of Afganistan
Imagine if Trump had done that?
Great . . . Thanks. 👍
 


Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
63,907
The Fatherland
Sorry auto correct, I meant forthcoming. If you don't see the financial benefits in that 14 months.

The litany of insanity is the stuff he has done so far. For example:
- Tarrifs on Canada etc
- Suggesting that a bishop calling for mercy was a wrong un.
- Leaving the WHO
- phoning the Danish PM and demanding Greenland with menaces
- leaving the Paris agreement.
-scrapping inclusion programs and making it mandatory to report anyone that is complaining about it.
- stopping all government grants and/payments while they review them.
- Having 13 billionaires in his government (one of which may or may not have done a nazi salute, but certainly has iffy ties with far right groups.

Do I need to go on?

Marshy asked a question in post #10,828 that led to a pretty comprehensive list of the stuff many people have problems with, so by all means refer to that too.
And blaming the Washington plane crash on dwarfs.

Who did he blame for the Philly crash the day after?
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,887
Trump chickening out of tariffs on Canada but trying to pretend he won concessions will probably fool the MAGA idiots.
 






Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,992
Eastbourne
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Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,356
On NSC for over two decades...
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Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,887
Apart from inflation which was a global problem - in what way was the last 4 years a complete debacle?
I am quintet interested to hear the response to this. As far as I can tell their economy recovered from Covid far better than the rest of us.

The inflation point as you say was a global phenomenon (just a few countries made it worse with crazy policies but I don’t think America was one).
 


The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
NSC Patron
Aug 7, 2003
8,275
Apart from inflation which was a global problem - in what way was the last 4 years a complete debacle?
For me, it is that the last 4 years have been plagued by wars / incursions,

Russia / Ukraine - Potential for WW3 (MSN)
Hamas / Israel
Israel / Iran - Potential for WW3 (MSN)
Israel / Lebanon
Syria
Gaza
Etc.

Whilst it is unknown what measures Biden could've taken, if any, to prevent / resolve the above, one thing is for sure and that is that they have had a major impact on the Global Financial Markets and energy prices. Whether Trump can help to bring a form of "peace" is another unknown as who knows what the outcome of discussions between groups of demented lunatics, Trump being one, will produce.

Ending hostilities will, however, see a surge in Global Markets. and a drop in energy prices.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,952
Chandlers Ford
Sorry auto correct, I meant forthcoming. If you don't see the financial benefits in that 14 months.

The litany of insanity is the stuff he has done so far. For example:
- Tarrifs on Canada etc
- Suggesting that a bishop calling for mercy was a wrong un.
- Leaving the WHO
- phoning the Danish PM and demanding Greenland with menaces
- leaving the Paris agreement.
-scrapping inclusion programs and making it mandatory to report anyone that is complaining about it.
- stopping all government grants and/payments while they review them.
- Having 13 billionaires in his government (one of which may or may not have done a nazi salute, but certainly has iffy ties with far right groups.

Do I need to go on?

Marshy asked a question in post #10,828 that led to a pretty comprehensive list of the stuff many people have problems with, so by all means refer to that too.
- decimating the Air Traffic Control organisation
- blaming subsequent mid-air collision on 'diversity hires', without any knowledge of the causes of the crash
- pardoning 1,000 people involved in the violent insurrection at the Capitol - regardless of their level of involvement / violence. Committing violent crimes is seemingly 'okay' if you're on Trump's 'side'.
- decimating the FBI, by purging all officials and agents involved in investigations of Trump himself. National security is less important than protecting himself.
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,105
- decimating the Air Traffic Control organisation
- blaming subsequent mid-air collision on 'diversity hires', without any knowledge of the causes of the crash
- pardoning 1,000 people involved in the violent insurrection at the Capitol - regardless of their level of involvement / violence. Committing violent crimes is seemingly 'okay' if you're on Trump's 'side'.
- decimating the FBI, by purging all officials and agents involved in investigations of Trump himself. National security is less important than protecting himself.
It's been quite a fortnight.
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
15,627
Cumbria
For me, it is that the last 4 years have been plagued by wars / incursions,

Russia / Ukraine - Potential for WW3 (MSN)
Hamas / Israel
Israel / Iran - Potential for WW3 (MSN)
Israel / Lebanon
Syria
Gaza
Etc.

Whilst it is unknown what measures Biden could've taken, if any, to prevent / resolve the above, one thing is for sure and that is that they have had a major impact on the Global Financial Markets and energy prices. Whether Trump can help to bring a form of "peace" is another unknown as who knows what the outcome of discussions between groups of demented lunatics, Trump being one, will produce.

Ending hostilities will, however, see a surge in Global Markets. and a drop in energy prices.
Yes- I agree. But as you say, we don't know what difference there would have been if Trump had been President not Biden. So, whilst the last four years have seen these wars, the thrustof @lasvegan 's argument / postings is that the last 4 years have been a debacle because of Biden. That's what I'm interested in hearing from them about.
 


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