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[Albion] Penalty, or...
- Thread starter Bozza
- Start date
- Mar 23, 2023
- 2,311
Pen in the still photos, no pen in the video
oldboyroy
Well-known member
Video seemed clear pen also
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
He was shoved in the shoulder.
AmexRuislip
Retired Spy 🕵️♂️
See post #12
It is a physical game. All contact is not a foul. They competed for the ball. Veltman dived. He does this regularly. Buys fouls.
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
- 7,079
Very much this sadly. Had he concentrated more on getting the ball rather than looking for the foul he would have not needed to handle the ball.
Our fans and manager claiming it was a foul are seriously deluded.
scooter1
How soon is now?
At what point do I suggest ‘we’ can do anything? ‘We’ can’t, but the ref should be able to control the game and he today he didn’t.
SkirlieWirlie
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- Jan 6, 2024
- 333
Fair enough. You mentioned us being shithoused. Not a lot we can do about it except get in the refs ear which Dunky and others did. But I've yet to see any ref take any action against teams like these (also see: AV, Fulham, Arsenal, Wolves)
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Exactly, Beto's foul on Veltman was no different than Baleba's on Zirkzee for the penalty at Man U last week.
I don't think VAR actually considered the foul at all, just the question of whether it was a penalty or a corner. Chalking off the penalty would have meant the original decision to give a corner was also wrong... but that wasn't the question... so...
Basically, I'm outraged, and I've not been outraged since the infamous Phil Prosser match.
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It’s handball, but before it there’s a hand on Joel’s shoulder that tries to pull him back. It’s a foul but a very soft one. The issue is some refs give them and some don’t, and some refs give them differently depending on where it was on the pitch. No consistency.
I am, however, consistent in my opinion that VAR shouldn’t re referee the game and should get in the bin.
I am, however, consistent in my opinion that VAR shouldn’t re referee the game and should get in the bin.
SkirlieWirlie
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- Jan 6, 2024
- 333
If the (as some have alluded soft) foul, which to be fair I haven't seen played back, isn't committed, Joel isn't deliberately handling the ball.
Having said that, he has a huge amount of credit in the bank for me to forgive this error.
ChickenDipper
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- Nov 8, 2024
- 253
The poll just goes to show it wasn’t clear and obvious and the fact var got involved is a disgrace and not in line with their usage this season. We were on the wrong end of one today and it made them cheat even more.
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
- 7,079
Sadly lots of people sounding like Arsenal fans in this thread 
Munchkin
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Same old Veltman I’m afraid, ref didn’t fall for his normal theatrics and absolute stupidity to quite clearly handle the ball for the penalty.
A right back must surely be an absolute priority either this window or in the summer.
A right back must surely be an absolute priority either this window or in the summer.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
He tried to ‘earn’ a foul, but not enough for it to be one.
A biased poll on a fans football forum shows absolutely f*** all