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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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Sirnormangall
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Worth a watch. Video clips of Trump having a go at Putin. ,. Broe hoping that MAGA may all flip now to support Ukraine.
That was interesting viewing and let’s hope Broe’s take on some of those speeches and statements is right and that Trump throws his weight behind Ukraine. On one of the clips I noted (and agreed with) Kasparov’s comments which were along the lines of no compromise and urging increased support to Ukraine
- Aug 24, 2020
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Barbados and Panama to remove flags from 114 Russian shadow fleet tankers.
Eutomaidan press twitter. Can someone link this please? Thanks.
Eutomaidan press twitter. Can someone link this please? Thanks.
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Barbados and Panama to remove flags from 114 Russian shadow fleet tankers - Euromaidan Press https://search.app/Cnv5wVMi67Si4TKq8
- Aug 24, 2020
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Putin rushes to the Kremlin, late at night.
It could be the usual disinformation of course. Some of the theories in the replies are good (e.g. he needs a poop etc)
It could be the usual disinformation of course. Some of the theories in the replies are good (e.g. he needs a poop etc)
Putin rushes to the Kremlin, late at night.
It could be the usual disinformation of course. Some of the theories in the replies are good (e.g. he needs a poop etc)
Yes, the replies are fun!. The Ryazan facility hit is a good fact though
- Aug 24, 2020
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'Kremniy El factory produces microelectronics for missile complexes, Pantsir air defense, Iskander missiles, radar and electronic warfare and Russian drones. An important military target.'
I wonder how Ukraine finds these targets? I'm guessing, but they're unlikely to have their own websites, detailing what they make etc.
Just watching Denys Davydov video. His opinion is the Russian economy will survive for a long time yet, beyond 2025 (he's not an economist). He showed an interesting chart and I've tracked down the article: an analysis of how trade between Russia and other countries has shifted markedly since sanctions. Eg india (no surprise) and Turkey (wtf) have increased. I hope this link works.
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Also, here's the link to his full video, which was very informative today.
Adobe Acrobat
Also, here's the link to his full video, which was very informative today.
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Always good to hear this lady it's a wide discussion and she's currently slamming Europe for not living up to NATO funding commitments, for not supporting Ukraine enough militarily, and for laundering dirty money from Russia and its allies through Switzerland, Liechtenstein and London.
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She is excellent, and says Europe needs to get a backbone fast.
She also says that the Baltic cable attacks are already an article 5 issue, if Europe/NATO wanted to proceed. Putin could be warned that it's a red line, one more cable and NATO is in...(but we won't will we, cos as she says there's insufficient backbone).
.She is excellent, and says Europe needs to get a backbone fast.
She also says that the Baltic cable attacks are already an article 5 issue, if Europe/NATO wanted to proceed. Putin could be warned that it's a red line, one more cable and NATO is in...(but we won't will we, cos as she says there's insufficient backbone).
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- Aug 24, 2020
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Just watching Denys Davydov video. His opinion is the Russian economy will survive for a long time yet, beyond 2025 (he's not an economist). He showed an interesting chart and I've tracked down the article: an analysis of how trade between Russia and other countries has shifted markedly since sanctions. Eg india (no surprise) and Turkey (wtf) have increased. I hope this link works.
Adobe Acrobat
Also, here's the link to his full video, which was very informative today.
You're on fire this morning @ raymondo, just like Russia !
My immediate reaction to Denys' video, is that it may be that keeping the Russian economy going for a long time, may actually be the aim....
I think it was Jake Broe, who asked the question 'why doesn't Ukraine attack Russia's main oil export terminals?' He suggested that the answer is because the aim is to keep the Russian economy going, as a collapsing Russia poses more danger than the current warmongering Russia !
My other reaction to Denys' conclusion, is a bit of a contradiction. Is it a foregone conclusion that Russia's economy will continue for years?' I'm looking for ways to reduce the Russian trade with countries to which Russia has pivoted. For a while, I've been aware that Turkey/Erdogan has been playing both sides. I understand that Erdogan has regional ambitions, and still dreams of joining the EU. I don't know how much Russian trade goes through the Black Sea and Bosphorus, but I suspect it is considerable. Maybe it needs a conversation between Trump and Erdogan?
So there are several options to select from - give the green light to Ukraine to attack Russian oil terminals (e.g. Novorossisysk), talk Turkey,
tariffs, sanctions on Russia, secondary sanctions on trading partners, trade wars, reduce the oil price, keep Russia going, but without its war chest.
There are lots of options.
- Aug 24, 2020
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5 minute job for NSC.Thanks, Eric, a very thoughtful response
Complicated innit
Shropshire Seagull
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Without wishing to escalate conflict, I would be VERY interested to see what might happen if China decided now was a good time to open up a second front to reclaim their historical "lost" land.
Not least as North Korea would then be utterly befuddled as to which side they should be on.
It would also be Red on Red !
Is that a bad idea?
Not least as North Korea would then be utterly befuddled as to which side they should be on.
It would also be Red on Red !
Is that a bad idea?
It's an excellent idea.
China would stop supplying weapons to Russia; Russia would stop selling their oil to China; and North Korea would get back into their box...controlled and protected by China
Pavilionaire
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I think if the Chinese economy was stronger then there would never be a better time to reclaim land that used to be theirs.
However, because of sanctions on Russian the Russians are having to source most of their imports through China AND sell them energy at low prices. Without these two helpful factors China would be in a very bad place. They have a real estate crisis, and 40% of business are reporting losses as they are not putting prices up to match cost rises. Trump's tariffs will only make things worse for them.
Geopolitics is highly complex right now.
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Maybe a lot of theories in how they find them, but here's one that Mrs saw in Russian on one of these expert commentary channels, that sounded plausible?
The oligarchs are sick of him, but still too fearful to oppose him directly..... some are colluding and know what a lot of these enterprises do as theyll have tentacles/contacts in them, then through intermediaries, leak that info to Ukraine.
keep smiling and feigning support for Putin while doing what they can to end and undermine him without being killed themselves.
may also be just wild speculation?
Will be interesting to see if Trump actually applies his threatened tariffs. As you say, it would hurt China more, but can also hurt price inflation in the US.
- Aug 24, 2020
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It looks like this is how Russia is going to conduct itself in the peace negotiation process.
It will set vague pre-conditions for entering every stage of the peace negotiations.
Think misplaced arrogance, misreading the situation, mockery, a conveyor belt of obstacles in the way etc.
This could be a long 100 days for Gen. Kellogg, and the rest of us.
It will set vague pre-conditions for entering every stage of the peace negotiations.
Think misplaced arrogance, misreading the situation, mockery, a conveyor belt of obstacles in the way etc.
This could be a long 100 days for Gen. Kellogg, and the rest of us.