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[TV] The Traitors - BBC



stewart12

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Jan 16, 2019
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Watching season 1 on iPlayer, three episodes in there’s a highly strung tw@t who talks over folk …. John, a Scottish bloke.

Does he later emerge as a nice person?
Nope
 




basque seagull

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Oct 21, 2012
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Think it’s a mistake for Minah to limit herself to a female recruitment, I think Jake or Alexander would have been better potential picks than Charlotte personally. Maybe even Leanne would have been better.

The biggest question though is surely whether Charlotte admits to Minah that she’s not actually Welsh?
Jake wouldve been a great choice...
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Irrationally, I’m watching season one, last. It’s fantastic, the best imho. Perhaps contestants in seasons two and three learnt from it, hiding temper tantrums, aggression and personal loathing? Big Brother worked like that, the early seasons had less fakeness.

We got bored of season two half way through, in that it was patently obvious that the traitor would win. Episode after episode the faithful discounted a 22 year from possibly being a traitor.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Watching season 1 on iPlayer, three episodes in there’s a highly strung tw@t who talks over folk …. John, a Scottish bloke.

Does he later emerge as a nice person?

No, he's a nasty ****.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Irrationally, I’m watching season one, last. It’s fantastic, the best imho. Perhaps contestants in seasons two and three learnt from it, hiding temper tantrums, aggression and personal loathing? Big Brother worked like that, the early seasons had less fakeness.

We got bored of season two half way through, in that it was patently obvious that the traitor would win. Episode after episode the faithful discounted a 22 year from possibly being a traitor.

The problem with season 1 is that the traitors didn't want to be bad to their friends. In later seasons they've got on with the idea that it's a game and shit happens.
 








Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
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Uckfield
Charlotte just played the winning move? Or will she get outed as a result as Freddie falls?

High risk, high reward. She could be the winner if Freddie is banished and reveals as a traitor and doesn't drop her in it.

Does Freddie turn on Charlotte or try to turn the heat on Alexander instead?
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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High risk, high reward. She could be the winner if Freddie is banished and reveals as a traitor and doesn't drop her in it.
I think the organisers have learnt a lesson from the first series. I read that the participants have agreed to pay massive fines if they reveal any secrets. They won't have a repeat of that guy who dobbed his fellow in it.
 








A1X

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Think Charlotte has made a mistake not going for Alexander IMHO, but hard to see how she doesn’t win from here unless she blows it

Huge fan in the task of Leanne being so utterly FURIOUS at being called “two-faced” when she’s literally an army sergeant pretending to be a nail technician
 






Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Charlotte just played the winning move? Or will she get outed as a result as Freddie falls?

Stupid move murdering Leanne. When Leanne announces to the table that she told Charlotte she had a shield, Freddie is going to be like WTF?

It should be obvious to Freddie that Charlotte has just stitched him up, and if I was him I'd 100% take her down with me.

Whereas if Charlotte had just kept quiet, she'd have got to the final and no one would have voted her out, so she'd win.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I think the organisers have learnt a lesson from the first series. I read that the participants have agreed to pay massive fines if they reveal any secrets. They won't have a repeat of that guy who dobbed his fellow in it.

But that's practically impossible to enforce. You're allowed to say who you think the traitor is, even if you are a traitor and you're right.

For example, Freddie (if stitched up) could then say 'I think Charlotte is a traitor'. People would point out he's been on her side before, and he can respond that he's had a change of heart. And then when banished at the round table, he can say 'I was recruited last night'.

You're not going to get fined for that.
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
3,341
Uckfield
Stupid move murdering Leanne. When Leanne announces to the table that she told Charlotte she had a shield, Freddie is going to be like WTF?

It should be obvious to Freddie that Charlotte has just stitched him up, and if I was him I'd 100% take her down with me.

Whereas if Charlotte had just kept quiet, she'd have got to the final and no one would have voted her out, so she'd win.
It's going to be difficult for Freddie to make the play against Charlotte though. He's already got heat, and he can't go into the table with the argument that Charlotte told him to murder Leanne because that just outs himself.

IMO his smartest play is to try to turn it to Alexander. It's going to be very difficult to out Charlotte in a way that gets him to the end, even if he knows she's set him up.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
Stupid move murdering Leanne. When Leanne announces to the table that she told Charlotte she had a shield, Freddie is going to be like WTF?

It should be obvious to Freddie that Charlotte has just stitched him up, and if I was him I'd 100% take her down with me.

Whereas if Charlotte had just kept quiet, she'd have got to the final and no one would have voted her out, so she'd win.
I'm not sure why he'd 100% take Charlotte down with him. Yes he'd know she had set him up, but then equally Charlotte becomes the key to his success.
He could just try to convince everyone that maybe the traitors knew how it would look if they tried to murder Leanne. Don't forget, they could end up banishing more faithfuls from now on and nobody would know that was the case. If Freddie convinces others that Leanne or Frankie were traitors playing a cunning double bluff, both he and Charlotte are sitting pretty, with Charlotte suddenly finding it in her interests to keep the second traitor alive in case they can bring the elimination to a halt early together.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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It's going to be difficult for Freddie to make the play against Charlotte though. He's already got heat, and he can't go into the table with the argument that Charlotte told him to murder Leanne because that just outs himself.

Yes I'm not saying he should out himself, but take Charlotte down once he's been outed. He should be furious with Charlotte when it's revealed she knew about the shield, and tell her that either she protects him, or he takes her down.


IMO his smartest play is to try to turn it to Alexander. It's going to be very difficult to out Charlotte in a way that gets him to the end, even if he knows she's set him up.

Obviously he can't out her and get to the end, but if they go for Leanne, then Freddie is already done. Charlotte has already stitched him up.
 


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