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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,297
…and ignore!
Best thing for it.

I've gone ahead and added a text replace extension to my browser which also changes his name to Nelson - the bully from the Simpsons who just sits at the back of the class pointing and laughing. Seemed appropriate.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,320
Well that's the end of the " American Dream ". looks like joe Biden's pre-emptive pardons were necessary and an indicator of what is to come. All the Jan 6 rioters being pardoned is a devastating blow to democracy and the rule of law. All the fringe nutters can come out of the darkness now and know they are safe with the king nut Job in charge. I pity anyone in law enforcement, the military and the US government who may be given orders that are in conflict with the US constitution and its amendments.

Additionally, its probably going to lead to more international conflict as America, under Trump steps back from international affairs unless it suits his agenda. The Big Man is willing to pick on Panama and Greenland like a playground bully but can't stand up against Putin, Kim Jong Un and XI.

Bye bye planet too as the idiot plans to drill, drill drill despite the obvious data and science. The US could have set the lead in clean energy and its technology but that is gone too in the pursuit of quick cash and populism. The only hope really is for him to meet a sticky end before it all goes down the drain.
 


SweatyMexican

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2013
4,175
Well that's the end of the " American Dream ".

I’d say it’s been dead for a while, but best case scenario the US isn’t going improve like it desperately needs to for at least 4 years.

The next hope is the Democrats can come up with something even remotely a step in the right direction in 4 years time. Which is unlikely.
 






nevergoagain

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2005
1,683
nowhere near Burgess Hill
Something I don't quite understand is these Executive orders. If it's such a fabulous democracy how can the president take his own unilateral actions and change some seriously fundamental policies and judicial verdicts at a whim. Obviously not just Trump, Biden and others as well but just seems really strange.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,062
Just far enough away from LDC
And yet we elected a government that just talks down the uk, did a ridiculous anti growth budget in completely what they said they would not and left massive swathes of the community feeling utterly depressed and lacking in any positive future I am very lacking in any hope with the shower we have for this country for the next 4.5 years. Growth creators are leaving this country en masse and small and medium size business companies have been utterly battered with tax rises with starmer and reeves. Trump may be bluster but at least he gave a massive rallying call to his country something starmer and his cohorts have abjestly failed to do in 6 months
I know you are sometimes prone to hyperbole but you are exaggerating in both directions to make your point.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Well that's the end of the " American Dream ". looks like joe Biden's pre-emptive pardons were necessary and an indicator of what is to come. All the Jan 6 rioters being pardoned is a devastating blow to democracy and the rule of law. All the fringe nutters can come out of the darkness now and know they are safe with the king nut Job in charge. I pity anyone in law enforcement, the military and the US government who may be given orders that are in conflict with the US constitution and its amendments.

Additionally, its probably going to lead to more international conflict as America, under Trump steps back from international affairs unless it suits his agenda. The Big Man is willing to pick on Panama and Greenland like a playground bully but can't stand up against Putin, Kim Jong Un and XI.

Bye bye planet too as the idiot plans to drill, drill drill despite the obvious data and science. The US could have set the lead in clean energy and its technology but that is gone too in the pursuit of quick cash and populism. The only hope really is for him to meet a sticky end before it all goes down the drain.
Not just pardoned, it means someone like this can now also buy weapons again.

 








jordanseagull

Well-known member
Feb 11, 2009
4,169
I was meaning the republican party as a whole although it wouldn't surprise anyone if he did change the constitution.
The constitution is designed to make changing it at the whim of the executive, even a powerful one, is essentially impossible.

“The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval.”
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,745
Something I don't quite understand is these Executive orders. If it's such a fabulous democracy how can the president take his own unilateral actions and change some seriously fundamental policies and judicial verdicts at a whim. Obviously not just Trump, Biden and others as well but just seems really strange.
One thing is for sure, the last few years have exposed the flaws in the worlds greatest democracy. Executive Orders, the judicial panel thing and all the pardons (I thought pardons died out hundreds of years ago.
 




dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,442
London
One thing is for sure, the last few years have exposed the flaws in the worlds greatest democracy. Executive Orders, the judicial panel thing and all the pardons (I thought pardons died out hundreds of years ago.
And it's both sides. Lot of focus on trump pardons on this thread. Unless I'm mistaken Biden just pardoned his whole dodgy family, who have become very rich off government contracts and who also like to dabble in class A's while exploiting women.
 




n1 gull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
4,643
Hurstpierpoint
Well that's the end of the " American Dream ". looks like joe Biden's pre-emptive pardons were necessary and an indicator of what is to come. All the Jan 6 rioters being pardoned is a devastating blow to democracy and the rule of law. All the fringe nutters can come out of the darkness now and know they are safe with the king nut Job in charge. I pity anyone in law enforcement, the military and the US government who may be given orders that are in conflict with the US constitution and its amendments.

Additionally, its probably going to lead to more international conflict as America, under Trump steps back from international affairs unless it suits his agenda. The Big Man is willing to pick on Panama and Greenland like a playground bully but can't stand up against Putin, Kim Jong Un and XI.

Bye bye planet too as the idiot plans to drill, drill drill despite the obvious data and science. The US could have set the lead in clean energy and its technology but that is gone too in the pursuit of quick cash and populism. The only hope really is for him to meet a sticky end before it all goes down the
Wow mental

You seem to want Trump to be assassinated

There are a lot of people who have seriously lost the plot about a democratically elected government
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,745
And it's both sides. Lot of focus on trump pardons on this thread. Unless I'm mistaken Biden just pardoned his whole dodgy family, who have become very rich off government contracts and who also like to dabble in class A's while exploiting women.
Absolutely, and apparently presidents have been using executive orders for years too.

Not sure how far back the pardons thing goes.

Seems undemocratic to me.
 


dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,442
London
Someone should make a new thread about that specifically with the gifs of him doing it both times. I would but I can’t be arsed. That’s political apathy for you I suppose
Easy to make a gif out of context. If you watch the speech he puts his hand on his heart and then raises his hand and afterwards says my heart goes out to you.

However, the ridiculous facial expression would suggest he's on a massive wind up and has succeeded.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
63,484
The Fatherland
Well that's the end of the " American Dream ". looks like joe Biden's pre-emptive pardons were necessary and an indicator of what is to come. All the Jan 6 rioters being pardoned is a devastating blow to democracy and the rule of law. All the fringe nutters can come out of the darkness now and know they are safe with the king nut Job in charge. I pity anyone in law enforcement, the military and the US government who may be given orders that are in conflict with the US constitution and its amendments.

Additionally, its probably going to lead to more international conflict as America, under Trump steps back from international affairs unless it suits his agenda. The Big Man is willing to pick on Panama and Greenland like a playground bully but can't stand up against Putin, Kim Jong Un and XI.

Bye bye planet too as the idiot plans to drill, drill drill despite the obvious data and science. The US could have set the lead in clean energy and its technology but that is gone too in the pursuit of quick cash and populism. The only hope really is for him to meet a sticky end before it all goes down the drain.
One way or another, I really do not reckon he will last the full term.
 








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