[Football] West ham and Potter

Kalimantan Gull said:

Whether you like it or not this board had been inundated with the kind of entitled fans he is talking about. But you and I know it's just NSC and a number of loud but ultimately unrepresentative folks. That's the rebuttal to his posts but instead people seem to be taking it personally. He's not describing you so why get upset?

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Kosh said:

I’ve been called a f***ing C and worse… he’s gone as far to message me privately as such on multiple occasions… very personal and very nasty.

That’s who he is, scratch the surface, ahem - disagree with him, call out some not true BS and he flips and reveals the true person behind the hippy drippy footballing guru mask… he’s a nasty piece of work… always has been.

That’s why I get so upset with his constant bringing down of supporters he deems irrational, compromised and entitled… as for the GP fixation, just plain odd.

Also, crucially, he’s unable to take a joke or laugh at his own ridiculousness at all… not for me, not at all.

In the interests of my own sanity however, I’ll refrain from adding anything else to this thread and go back to ignoring him like I did when he was originally here, and wait for the inevitable to occur, which it will.

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Kosh said:

I’ve been called a f***ing C and worse… he’s gone as far to message me privately as such on multiple occasions… very personal and very nasty.

That’s who he is, scratch the surface, ahem - disagree with him, call out some not true BS and he flips and reveals the true person behind the hippy drippy footballing guru mask… he’s a nasty piece of work… always has been.

That’s why I get so upset with his constant bringing down of supporters he deems irrational, compromised and entitled… as for the GP fixation, just plain odd.

Also, crucially, he’s unable to take a joke or laugh at his own ridiculousness at all… not for me, not at all.

In the interests of my own sanity however, I’ll refrain from adding anything else to this thread and go back to ignoring him like I did when he was originally here, and wait for the inevitable to occur, which it will.

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Zeberdi said:

Accusing people of being “entitled “ has become a well worn trope on NSC to try and silence those who have expressed dissatisfaction with our performances - an accusation that is often made by another contingent of fans on the opposite end of the spectrum who think the Club and manager can do no wrong and who the “entitled” call “super fans” both are intended as slurs - the reality is that the majority of Brighton fans probably have a perspective that rests somewhere in the middle so of course there will be people who are going to take those epithets personally.

FWIW HS hasn’t upset me personally I just think his comments about the “hundreds” of Brighton fans not being appreciative of TB and the 90s was a time fans look back on with an air of self aggrandising is simply wrong however much you want to gaslight people for their responses to such nonsense.

Anyway, like most internet binfests, this has turned into another larger than life discussion that pushes the protagonists into polarised arguments so I’ll leave it there.

And btw re. the thread, good luck to Potter, he was one of our best managers, followed by RDZ who I think was even better but both were flawed personalities as we all are. Their influences continue to be present in the football we play which is a testament to both their individual qualities as managers but that’s it for me. The rest is history. I think ‘phlegmatic’ would best describe my feelings now for both Potter and WHU.

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Bozza said:

Please report any and all abusive PMs - each message has a button - as it makes them visible to moderators, and we won't hesitate to act.

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Justice said:

I’m waiting for ‘ WHU are a basket case club’ what was he meant to do there excuse.

It pains me to say Palace have a better manager than us & West Ham.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

I put the previous incarnation on ignore over the antisemitic ranting.
I have found no reason to put the new incarnation on ignore and find his posts/presence interesting.

I don't engage with the Potter debate, but get the impression that HS only has to mention Potter or RDZ and there are several people piling in. But I skim over that.

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jcdenton08 said:

But he’s gone. No Brighton fan cares about anything you just wrote, because we are interested in our club, not the prior success of one of our 39 head coaches/managers.

I realise to you and Swansman he’s a genius for his achievements, but to us he’s a guy that came in, changed our style of football successfully, then stayed for a few years with solid but unspectacular results and no achievements of note, then finally started delivering above-standard results and immediately f***ed off - with our entire coaching staff - to a club who had just signed our player of the season and acquired our director of football equivalent.

You can bring an army of Swedish Potter fans from his time over there to come and praise him and still, none of the Albion fans will give the tiniest shit because he’s irrelevant and was immediately upstaged by his replacement, who led us to our best ever league finish ever, then took us to the top of our European group.

I’m really sorry, but English football supporters care about their club. Players and coaches come and go, but the club remains.

And this is the main supporters forum for the club - not Graham Potter.

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Han Solo said:

Sorry, I have decided to disengage from this thread due to repeated complaints that I'm derailing the super interesting discussion you guys were about to have about Graham Potter.

You can proceed discussing this new, fascinating and unexplored subject without further derailings from me.

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One Teddy Maybank said:

Have you stopped using ‘ignore’?

I have HS on ignore, because I find him wearing, that said I have a large ignore list, and he is the only poster that I sometimes take off, to see his point.

Back on thread….

Have said it before, never warmed to Potter but he is a really good coach, I watched the West Ham v Palace game as abroad, and it West Ham looked a little like us when GP started. I also don’t find criticism of his comments boring, because it was twatish behaviour on his part….

I expect them and him to continually improve in the next 18 months.

Palace well organised but a bit boring to watch IMO.

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tstanbur said:

I must have missed the announcement where you were appointed the spokesman for all of "us" and also know everyone's opinions?

@Swegulls - I like your posts, please continue and ignore his arrogance.

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came in, changed our style of football successfully, then stayed for a few years with solid but unspectacular results and no achievements of note, then finally started delivering above-standard results and immediately f***ed off - with our entire coaching staff - to a club who had just signed our player of the season and acquired our director of football equivalent.

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Seagull58 said:

As we've seen most spectacularly with Southampton, you need high quality, brave players to play out from the back and keep possession. Has Potter got any of that type of player at West Ham?

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

I put the previous incarnation on ignore over the antisemitic ranting.
I have found no reason to put the new incarnation on ignore and find his posts/presence interesting.

I don't engage with the Potter debate, but get the impression that HS only has to mention Potter or RDZ and there are several people piling in. But I skim over that.

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One Teddy Maybank said:

All very fair and probably right, but the lack of objectivity particularly in the GP / RdZ discussions wore me down.
GP was great for us.
RdZ gave us memories forever….

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Justice said:

If you look at previous achievements let’s take the Swedish pub league out of the equation and you have a manager who got Brighton to mid table once. He hasn’t achieved any honours in English football. The best manager we’ve ever had quoted a poster, not for me.

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Tom Hark Preston Park said:

I sometimes used to think that I was the only person who'd ever bothered to take a look at his pathetic managerial CV on wikipedia at the point where he joined us. Jeez! Talk about making a silk purse out of a sow's ear

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Justice said:

If you look at previous achievements let’s take the Swedish pub league out of the equation and you have a manager who got Brighton to mid table once. He hasn’t achieved any honours in English football. The best manager we’ve ever had quoted a poster, not for me.

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