- Aug 24, 2020
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'Russia plotted terror attacks on airlines around the world' - Donald Tusk.
Edit: I've found the link. Put it down to 'user error'.
Edit: I've found the link. Put it down to 'user error'.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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This is apparently what Putin will be demanding in the forthcoming peace talks. He is being a tad hopeful.
So most of the 'demands' are mad, as one would expect. But this was interesting:
"Putin, according to them, also insists that Russia retain at least de facto control over 20% of Ukrainian territory captured by the army during the three years of war. Moscow is reportedly open to some "territorial exchanges," the agency's sources said, as Ukrainian forces continue to control hundreds of square kilometers of Kursk region, which Ukrainian troops attacked in August."
So in Putin's demands, he's accepting Russia will give 80% of captured territory back? That's his starting gambit?
I think I could make up more believable demands within 5 minutes.
beorhthelm
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reckon that's missing "the", added before Ukraine. 20% is how much territory under Russian control.
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I don't think Putin meant 20% of the occupied territory! He meant the 20% of total Ukrainian territory, that the occupied territory constitutes. And he thinks it amounts to 'over 20%' as well. He's over-playing his hand again. The 'territorial exchanges' is presumably a nod to Ukraine occupying part of Kursk.
Note that by using the term 'de facto', if he did indeed use it, he seems to acknowledge Russia does not have a legal right to the captured territories.
de facto - 'existing or holding a specified position in fact but not necessarily by legal right'.
It's a bit wordy, but here's the output from European Defence Ministers: improving intra Europe cooperation to support Ukraine, plus better alignment of EU and NATO.
www.gov.uk
Joint Statement by Group of Five Defence Ministers – 13 January 2025
Minister for the Armed Forces, Luke Pollard, joined Defence Ministers in Helenów, Poland, from the Group of Five nations: France, Germany, Italy, Poland, and the UK.
Interesting stat from the Kyiv Independent:
"Zelensky also reported progress in arms production, saying that Ukraine now covers 33-34% of its annual weapons needs — up from less than 10% before the full-scale invasion. Europe and the U.S. supply more than 60% of Ukraine's weaponry, with each accounting for about 30%."
"Zelensky also reported progress in arms production, saying that Ukraine now covers 33-34% of its annual weapons needs — up from less than 10% before the full-scale invasion. Europe and the U.S. supply more than 60% of Ukraine's weaponry, with each accounting for about 30%."
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Europe is matching the US then, but Ukraine is producing the most. Perhaps Ukraine won't miss US weapons quite as much as we feared.
We need to keep supporting, but just as importantly, we need to keep the sanctions on Russia, and up them. And apply the same rules to those helping Russia out with shadow fleets.
This war just isn't sustainable for Russia in the long term.
Yeah, it's positive, but it's a bit of a general statement I guess. Would be interesting to see a breakdown by weapon type e.g. long range missiles, artillery shells...
Exactly. Defeat on the battlefield might delay the Russians. The sanctions would make it impossible for them to do it again.
- Aug 24, 2020
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How many fecking oil depots do they have
Well they can't refine the oil, as Ukraine have attacked the refineries, so they've got to store it somewhere.
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papachris
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Another one of Estonia's politicians is in Russia's black book for her support of Ukraine.
news.err.ee
Russia adds Estonian foreign ministry official to entry ban list
Moscow has banned Estonian official Minna Liina Lind from entering the Russian Federation after her work to block Russian officials from traveling to Europe, it was reported this week.
news.err.ee
Thanks!
We shouldn't have Russian officials travelling to Europe, we shouldn't have Russian tourists or business people travelling to Europe. Stop them all.Another one of Estonia's politicians is in Russia's black book for her support of Ukraine.
Russia adds Estonian foreign ministry official to entry ban list
Moscow has banned Estonian official Minna Liina Lind from entering the Russian Federation after her work to block Russian officials from traveling to Europe, it was reported this week.
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I'm sure she very upset about it..........not.Another one of Estonia's politicians is in Russia's black book for her support of Ukraine.
Russia adds Estonian foreign ministry official to entry ban list
Moscow has banned Estonian official Minna Liina Lind from entering the Russian Federation after her work to block Russian officials from traveling to Europe, it was reported this week.