Banning DK after the Brentford ticket rant was bang out of order IMO.
I'm fine, thanks.
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Are you suggesting that poker-playing Tony Bloom decided to not swank around with a fist-full of loadsamoney in order to preclude him and the club being soaked by the sort of sharks that smell blood and money to be made around 'controversial' planning permissions, stadium contracts and the like?
Don't most right-thinking Albion fans appreciate both Dick Knight and Tony Bloom.
Yes of course.
I think that is a bit disingenuous to TB. He is obviously an astute businessman but he stepped in as he was and remains a fan and no one else at that time, including the Banks who were reining in their lending to businesses due to the credit crunch would have provided any funding for the stadium. The original plan was to build the stands in phases, but his money meant that all four stands could be built in one phase. DK and MP saved the ship from sinking and TB helped to make it into an ocean liner. DK,MP and TB’s contributions to BHA‘s recent history are all complimentary imo.
So you'd be happy to see the club drop out of the EPL just to prove your point! Some fan.
Had there not been that financial crash, DK may well have been able to arrange finance but it wouldn't have come cheap and we would have been saddled with a massive, interest bearing, debt. That's gone well for many clubs!!
Would DK's record have been as good if it wasn't propped up by TB's money?Who's to know what DK/MP could 'of' achieved given the chance. They had a pretty good track record up til 2008 when disposable cash became king. They deserved the chance. Little wonder DK is bitter
Be interesting to know exactly who you believe is rewriting history? Seems to me only THPPS is the one rewriting history and seemingly because of some vendetta against TB!
Right what I got out of this, and there was a lot of itI'm fine, thanks.
I should reiterate the context here. I replied to someone say to me "Telling your fellow fans that there’s no place for them at BHAFC is disgusting."
I never said that. Whatever I did say has been taken out of context. Some people don't understand irony, facetiousness, that sort of thing. Hard lines. Disgusting, am I? well, really.
"It’s pretty reading for the officials at the club - finger pointing on leaving early, not signing, not attending matches etc etc."
I never said that. And here is where we enter the Twiglet Zone*. As I have said on numerous occasions I am a serial early leaver of legendary proportions. Tahrby's comment above is absurd, and wrong, and made up like the drug 'Cake'.
Tahabry has a bee in his bonnet, which is based (as far as I recall) on a legitimate grievance with the club. He and I discussed this some months ago, and someone else who knows him PMd me to put flesh on bones. After some increasingly cordial messages I thought we had resolved our disagreement. Apparently not.
I have used the 'make me a cup of tea' quote from the Fast Show (I admit that my comedy totally lacks originality) as many times as THPP has written that he has a 'feeling' about a game, and beach hut has told us he's 'so excited', including at least once in the last few days. Chap thinks I really want him to pull up his knickers and make me a cup of tea? OK......
And I thought you were familiar enough with my repartee to know that I am hardly likely to be a slavish devotee to The Management, regardless of the possible madness of their pointy-headed schemes. For example, I deeply resent that use of the lift to the top of West Upper by decrepit old buffers like me is not permitted. But it would be pompous of me in the extreme to seek to Hold The Club To Account over it. And I am not a stranger to pomposity, being the proud owner of the 2002 Hoity Toity poster of the year award.
Surely you can see that one or two people are getting excessively exercised about changes to their ability to not show up, not put their ticket on the exchange, and not read emails from the club? Maybe there are some lessons to be learned. Somehow one person (maybe two) have not managed their situation sufficiently coherently (or perhaps politely), unsurprisingly been sent a 'computer says no' reply and instead have come bleating on here about things (or have had a pal come bleating on their behalf).
And I say bleating because the accusations that the club are in the wrong was part of their narrative from the off. Maybe the club is in the wrong, so they should ask for help to sort it out. There are plenty of well connected people on NSC who could do so. Instead they (and others) seem to want to weave a wider narrative about what a wicked heartless club we have. That's not helpful.
I love a good campaign, but I need to see a good cause and a well-considered plan of action.
Anyway, I have learnt a lot today. Dick Knight good, Tony Bloom bad. Who knew?
If it helps perhaps I should put Tahbey on ignore so he knows there is no point his typing furiously before thinking, again.
Maybe later.
(I always enjoy your posts, even your one above, which is civil, if slightly misinformed
*Lovely Marmite flavour. Mmmmm
, is I slightly agree with his point that you are telling people to go watch Lewes, is a bit self righteous. That’s my opinion, but I think there is a debate to be had about these season ticket no shows, and forcibly listing tickets.
I’m sure THPK is getting a fair bit of stick on here, BUT, I do think there’s a point in here. We have very much hit a crossroads here AT THIS VERY MOMENT, do we want to go on and achieve things like trophies and titles, or do we want to make profit and build infrastructure that while may sustainably create income, will it create success. That is the proof in the pudding for me with TB.Ever noticed how TB players come and go, normally at a spectacular profit sooner rather than later, and that profit gets immediately ploughed into ever-expanding bricks n mortar infrastructure. TB don't want 'paying back' he's doing pretty well out of the deal thank you very much. Dont be fooled by the bobble hat is all I'm saying
I do think it’s worth pointing out though that I think the efforts by fans and supporters of this club, will always in my opinion, always eclipse what both DK and TB have achieved, and I think they’d both agree.DK and TB have both been absolute heroes for BHAFC.
Unfortunately, people who are capable of pulling off the sort of miracle they have each managed tend to be very focused, very single minded, and somewhat driven by their end goal, maybe with a bit of ego thrown in. It really can't come as a surprise given the characters that they both are, and what they have each achieved, that they aren't that close and struggle to share the limelight
It really is only the fans that are in a position to truly appreciate them both and what they have achieved between them
I don't think I have ever heard anybody at BHAFC prioritise trophies and titles over sustainability and certainly not since the late 1970s/very early 1980s
Not so much that, but whether we are going to be more of a player profit machine, or whether we are sustainably aiming for Trophies and Titles, ultimately to a certain extent this is what football is about.I don't think I have ever heard anybody at BHAFC prioritise trophies and titles over sustainability and certainly not since the late 1970s/very early 1980s