[Albion] Fab OUT

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You constantly knock RDZ although the players who he managed don’t seem to share the same narrative, quite the opposite in fact.
Agree. Even this last week Ally Mac talking to bbc says Roberto the best he's played under although of course, he wasn't here last season when it turned sour. He had a run in with Roberto when playing for us but that's nature for the cause. My comments above were not about Fab ranting and raving at every player but a rollicking when needed is normal.
 




Justice

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'What concerns me about Fab is that the passing structures we had with RDZ seem to have gone totally'
Agree with comment in previous post. We seem to be trying to play direct balls most of the time. Was awful to watch compared to RDZ ball. Sad to watch us play this new style.
The last time we really controlled a midfield was against Manure when Wee Billy G got MOTM.
He should have begged him to stay offered a new deal made him captain or something.
To much change to fast hasn’t worked.
 




Hometownglory

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Tbh I think a lot of people were pissed off. I was fuming walking out of the ground. It hurts being so bad against Palace at home. We've had a few results with late kicks in the teeth. I did want Fab out at 4pm. This morning and in the cold light of the day, of course it would be rediculous. There's a lot of emotion flying around after bad games like that.
 
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I didn’t think the new guy was going to directly be involved in helping coach the first team. More of a person who organises coaching across the different teams including u21s, and youth teams. I’m sure he can support Fab but ultimately the buck stops with Fabian.
What concerns me about Fab is that the passing structures we had with RDZ seem to have gone totally.
Coaching, from clips that I’ve seen, seem to be fitness drills and practice games played at break neck speed.
We seem to have lost the control that we had under Potter and RDZ and our ability to pass around teams has diminished.
We seem to have gone from a passing team to a helter skelter team who don’t have the defensive structure or defenders to play that way.
I’d like to see us play a more sensible midfield with Wieffer playing as a defensive midfielder and have Baleba playing a freer role to give us greater physicality and barrier in front of the back four. Almost like a back to basics stance as I think we have the attackers to change games but at present we are just Too open at the back and are conceding too many.
True to a point but we seem to have kept them in the one worst place - in and around our penalty area. See Bart at Fulham and Igor at Leicester.

This thread is too reactionary for me at the moment. Everyone was good with him when we beat City and that’s not so long ago. Let’s see what he does when and if we get a full squad back.
 




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Having been to every home game and missed 2/3,aways, the fella has zero tactical nouce I’m not not backing him and wait till see what arsenal do to us in a few weeks time
If you've been to every home game, you'll know that yesterday was the first league game our "awful" manager lost in almost half a season. Unless you're of the opinion that everything good is luck and everything bad is down to him then that ain't a bad record.
 


Zeberdi

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This thread is too reactionary for me at the moment. Everyone was good with him when we beat City and that’s not so long ago. Let’s see what he does when and if we get a full squad back.
I’ve kept quiet since the match yesterday, not commenting on any of the many threads that were started (or continued) in reaction to how we played, largely for this reason.

I couldn’t agree with you more - it’s too close to a shitty result to be impartial and objective about this and fans respond entirely differently about FH when we win big games.

The concern is our ‘plan’ on the pitch is beginning to all look a little reactionary too with the tail chasing the dog.

Let’s see where we are by the New Year but I’m not going to wet the bed or call the ‘project‘ a failure with anything other than being outside a top 10 finish this year under relatively experienced squad and relatively inexperienced manager.
 


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True to a point but we seem to have kept them in the one worst place - in and around our penalty area. See Bart at Fulham and Igor at Leicester.

This thread is too reactionary for me at the moment. Everyone was good with him when we beat City and that’s not so long ago. Let’s see what he does when and if we get a full squad back.
Having slept on it I feel bad/embarrassed about quite a few of my post match posts and comments yesterday. My disappointment at being schooled by Palace coupled with drinking more than I should as the nightmare unfolded, a match I wanted to lose less than any other than the return fixture, led to an over reaction. I hate how football can do that to me, it really shouldn’t matter that much. Well done to those that kept their cool and just walked away accepting that shit happens :smile:
 




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Having slept on it I feel bad/embarrassed about quite a few of my post match posts and comments yesterday. My disappointment at being schooled by Palace coupled with drinking more than I should as the nightmare unfolded, a match I wanted to lose less than any other than the return fixture, led to an over reaction. I hate how football can do that to me, it really shouldn’t matter that much. Well done to those that kept their cool and just walked away accepting that shit happens :smile:
You’re far from the only one. I avoided pretty much any thread to do with the game last night. It’s always the same - too soon, too raw and too toxic but completely get how it affects some more than others and perhaps there’s nowhere else to vent for many. Going to be a lot more inconsistency yet with a green manager and new squad that’s been massively messed around by injury and no chance to settle. I’m still settling for top half this season as decent.
 


HangletonGull

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If you've been to every home game, you'll know that yesterday was the first league game our "awful" manager lost in almost half a season. Unless you're of the opinion that everything good is luck and everything bad is down to him then that ain't a bad record.
Again I will say the wins over city and spurs papered over the cracks I believe he’s out of his depth its opinion
 


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Again I will say the wins over city and spurs papered over the cracks I believe he’s out of his depth its opinion
I guess the question should be ‘is he currently a bit out of his depth and learning, or simply out of his depth ?’……….and if the former (more likely imo), how much time does he get………🤷‍♂️
 




Zeberdi

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Having slept on it I feel bad/embarrassed about quite a few of my post match posts and comments yesterday.
That’s ok - put you on ignore when we went 2 nil down in full anticipation that you’d have a meltdown and start another ‘Fab out’ type thread 😉

Good to see you‘ve woken up in a better mood.
 


HangletonGull

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I guess the question should be ‘is he currently a bit out of his depth and learning, or simply out of his depth ?’……….and if the former (more likely imo), how much time does he get………🤷‍♂️
I would give him till Europe is no longer achievable but I’m not Bloom , I believe the module is about getting in to Europe and anything below that is a failure
 


Zeberdi

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I guess the question should be ‘is he currently a bit out of his depth and learning, or simply out of his depth ?’……….and if the former (more likely imo), how much time does he get………🤷‍♂️
It was the first game we lost at home this season and we are in the top half of the table - an objective the Club has repeatedly expressed as their aim - it’s just unfortunate the loss was to Palace and so spectacularly.

Just asking - Would you be saying FH was ‘out of his depth’ if he wasn’t the age he was?

If we recruited a dud, it doesn’t say much for our very extensive data research and scouting abilities or the future of BHAFC if they are so flawed does it?
 




Seasider78

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Find it strange the manager is coming in for so much stick and it’s a lazy deflection from what have been some woeful individual performances and mistakes over recent weeks which at this level cost you games. The whole team were a yard off the pace yesterday and defensively we don’t have a single player in any sort of form. Manager has a role to play but I am far more frustrated with some of the players at the moment who need to step up and start putting in some of the high energy performances we saw earlier in the season.
 


jcdenton08

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Having slept on it I feel bad/embarrassed about quite a few of my post match posts and comments yesterday. My disappointment at being schooled by Palace coupled with drinking more than I should as the nightmare unfolded, a match I wanted to lose less than any other than the return fixture, led to an over reaction. I hate how football can do that to me, it really shouldn’t matter that much. Well done to those that kept their cool and just walked away accepting that shit happens :smile:
Credit to you for this. It helps that you aren’t just a negative troll in your usual posts - as I said in the match thread:

It’s a match day thread mate, and we’re 2-0 down at home to our rivals and playing badly.

Football fans overreact both positively after a win and negatively after a loss, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

I’d suggest logging off for the next few days because it’s going to be thread after thread and post after post of abject negativity.

There’s no reasoning with an angry/disappointed/expectant/drunk football supporter

I really hate to side with Potter on this one, but while I wouldn’t use “history lesson”, certainly a reality check is in order for a surprisingly large number of our supporters.
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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Under RDZ and Potter it was so ploddy at times, but the players all knew exactly what they were doing and had patterns of play to fall back on. I don't see that with Fab at all. I see a team playing very high up the pitch. We try to play intricate one-touch stuff centrally and sometimes it's glorious. But much of the time, we're one misplaced pass away from getting torn apart on the counter.

When we concede we've conceded again within 8 minutes against Palace, Leicester, Fulham, Liverpool, Wolves and Chelsea. That's more than a third of our games. Dreadful stat.
 






Hometownglory

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If you've been to every home game, you'll know that yesterday was the first league game our "awful" manager lost in almost half a season. Unless you're of the opinion that everything good is luck and everything bad is down to him then that ain't a bad record.
In fairness, our home performances have been average at best, we've beaten a couple of big teams and f***ed the rest.
 


sussex_guy2k2

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True to a point but we seem to have kept them in the one worst place - in and around our penalty area. See Bart at Fulham and Igor at Leicester.

This thread is too reactionary for me at the moment. Everyone was good with him when we beat City and that’s not so long ago. Let’s see what he does when and if we get a full squad back.
I think the biggest issue with the City win, and I said this at the time, was that the thing he did that day was bring on our best team. He didn’t do anything miraculous tactically. He just brought on better players.

But the first 30 minutes was the most one sided 30 minutes of football we’ve had against us all season. City totally dominated.

Hilariously, they only stopped dominating when Guardiola changed the structure of their side after their goal, ceding control over midfield to us. So FH didn’t actually have to do anything, apart from bring on Baleba and JP.
 


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