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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)







Triggaaar

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Russian newspapers reporting today that the price of potatoes has increased by circa 80% this year and butter ~30%. Press coverage of Syria is also negative in some media, describing it as a “blow” to Russia. Does this ‘bad news’ coverage indicate that the Kremlin is losing control of the media? - or maybe the media simply can’t hide the obvious.

The price rises are obvious and can't be hidden, but the Syria news could be ignored if they chose, so not sure why they're publicising that.
 




Eric the meek

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A little more on the big bavovna in Taganrog, 50 km inside Russia, along the Azov coast from Mariupol.
Correction: it was a series of little bavovnas.

Google tells us that Taganrog is a port in SW Russia, on the Gulf of Taganrog (an inlet of the Sea of Azov). It was founded in 1698 as a naval base and fortress by Peter the Great.

Ukraine may have hit Putin's 'Flying Kremlin' doomsday plane, using long-range missiles.

A report in The Sun (so it must be true), tells us that the attack was on a military airbase, where an Ilyushin II-80 plane is maintained. This is Putin's equivalent of Air Force One, the plane he would take in the event of nuclear war. If it was hit or damaged, then it would remove one escape route for Putin, and - may - have made the world a slightly safer place?

Here is the report. See what you think.

 








Eric the meek

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Trump planning to throw Ukraine under the bus and keep the kompromat hidden?


Indeed.

It's also a bit f****** late for the Republican majority in Congress to act over a genocidal tyrant with nukes who has repeatedly threatened the world with nuclear war, and who may have Kompromat over the President of the US.
 


raymondo

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Trump planning to throw Ukraine under the bus and keep the kompromat hidden?


It could be ok, maybe 🤔. I think there should be intelligence reports on all scenarios (they should have been done already), including of course the increasing of support to Ukraine and further sanctions on Russia.
Hopefully such a report will highlight the huge risks of Russia invading Moldova, Baltics, Poland...if they are allowed to win in Ukraine; plus emboldening China.
 














Eric the meek

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I read few days back that Russia had asked Turkey for help in their evacuation, to take troops and materiel over the border into Turkey.
I haven't heard any follow up on that in any media.
Yes, I heard that as well. Like you, I haven't heard anything more. Considering Russia and Turkey were on opposing sides in Syria, and are - apparently - on opposing sides in the Russia - Ukraine war, it's more than a little bit mindbending.

I did see something on Erdogan's recent duplicity, and I've tried to find it again, but to no avail.
 


Hugo Rune

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You can probably guess that Assad has asked for a bungalow
This is a huge failure by Assad.

Syria was key for Russian influence in the region and incredibly important for the private armies (under Putin control) doing so much damage in Africa.

The end result for Assad (and sadly, his family) will be something akin to Admital Motti’s fate in the first Star Wars film. I don’t think he’ll fall out of a high rise but he’ll be sent somewhere by plane and it won’t have a safe landing.

‘You have let me down for last time Bashar Al-Assad’.

Putin is pure evil but Assad more than deserves what is waiting for him. Serves him right for heading to Russia, he’d have had better luck in Iran or North Korea.

Putin will be happy to wait a while and take the opportunity when it arises. But there is no way Assad makes it to 2026.
 




Eric the meek

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This is a huge failure by Assad.

Syria was key for Russian influence in the region and incredibly important for the private armies (under Putin control) doing so much damage in Africa.

The end result for Assad (and sadly, his family) will be something akin to Admital Motti’s fate in the first Star Wars film. I don’t think he’ll fall out of a high rise but he’ll be sent somewhere by plane and it won’t have a safe landing.

‘You have let me down for last time Bashar Al-Assad’.

Putin is pure evil but Assad more than deserves what is waiting for him. Serves him right for heading to Russia, he’d have had better luck in Iran or North Korea.

Putin will be happy to wait a while and take the opportunity when it arises. But there is no way Assad makes it to 2026.
Perhaps there is no way Putin makes it to 2026 either. Will he kill Assad before someone gets to him?

And if not, will Assad be safe after Putin is retired?

The bookies are going to have to price these very carefully.
 


raymondo

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Yes, I heard that as well. Like you, I haven't heard anything more. Considering Russia and Turkey were on opposing sides in Syria, and are - apparently - on opposing sides in the Russia - Ukraine war, it's more than a little bit mindbending.

I did see something on Erdogan's recent duplicity, and I've tried to find it again, but to no avail.
Erdogan is VERY flexible. I'm glad they're in NATO though...just in case.
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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This is a huge failure by Assad.

Syria was key for Russian influence in the region and incredibly important for the private armies (under Putin control) doing so much damage in Africa.

The end result for Assad (and sadly, his family) will be something akin to Admital Motti’s fate in the first Star Wars film. I don’t think he’ll fall out of a high rise but he’ll be sent somewhere by plane and it won’t have a safe landing.

‘You have let me down for last time Bashar Al-Assad’.

Putin is pure evil but Assad more than deserves what is waiting for him. Serves him right for heading to Russia, he’d have had better luck in Iran or North Korea.

Putin will be happy to wait a while and take the opportunity when it arises. But there is no way Assad makes it to 2026.
Assad could also accuse Putin of letting HIM down...but then again Putin hasn't asked for asylum in Damascus. Will be interesting, for sure, to see what happens. He could be fine, although he'll miss Syrian weather, culture and cheap butter 😉
 






Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Trump planning to throw Ukraine under the bus and keep the kompromat hidden?



Congress has demanded an intelligence report. How do we get from there to Trump throwing Ukraine under the bus? I appreciate he could, but I'm hoping we're not there yet.
 


Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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A couple of examples of how Russia is preparing for the peace negotiations:

It's enough to make you think that there is no point in appealing to Russia's good side, isn't it?



 


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