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[Albion] Palace one way system



TugWilson

TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,861
Dorset
Milano said:
We get kept in then kettled away at Selhurst EVERY year, why can't the same happen to that lot here?

But because for whatever reason they don't then you keep the home exits closed....... You 'get rid' of 3k then open the home exits.

Alternatively, you keep 3k back, let 27k start queuing for trains, buses etc or just hang about in the concourse bars..... then you let 3k morons out en masse. Which is more likely to then cause an incident?

I would rather that than the even more crazy one way system. I was caught up in that outside the east in 2022 with my kids, it was no laughing matter, that was caused by the police blocking the exit past the NE corner towards the trains and idiot stewards allowing fans to exit and turn towards that corner, which is exactly what the fanzone is going to do.
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The fanzone is going to cause a LOT of trouble along with creating this ridiculous one way system , I am one of hundreds at each game that have trouble walking very far these days and am going to be walking far enough on match day without playing some weird version of Ring O Ring of Roses round The Amex to get a train .

Personally i don`t care how long they keep them back - as long as it takes to clear the home fans , if they bloody well behaved they could enjoy a beer with us afterwards like all sensible fans do , not that i expect a conga line like with the Naaarrrch lads
 




schmunk

schmunk

Why oh why oh why?
Jan 19, 2018
10,482
Mid mid mid Sussex
mile oak said:
NW family section exit via North stand? sounds like a crazy idea adding to the crush. I do find despite the need for the fan zone is it in the right area as it does seem to add to the bottleneck. At one point the area was to have a hotel i believe, where exactly was that gonna sit? Also if CP fans are held back why do our fans in the NW need to exit anywhere but where they normally do?

whatever DOES happen would be good if its communicated clearly in advance to all supporters.
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I'm fairly sure we exited as normal from the NW shelf at the last Palace game? :shrug:
 




TugWilson

TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,861
Dorset
Milano said:
We get kept in then kettled away at Selhurst EVERY year, why can't the same happen to that lot here?

But because for whatever reason they don't then you keep the home exits closed....... You 'get rid' of 3k then open the home exits.

Alternatively, you keep 3k back, let 27k start queuing for trains, buses etc or just hang about in the concourse bars..... then you let 3k morons out en masse. Which is more likely to then cause an incident?

I would rather that than the even more crazy one way system. I was caught up in that outside the east in 2022 with my kids, it was no laughing matter, that was caused by the police blocking the exit past the NE corner towards the trains and idiot stewards allowing fans to exit and turn towards that corner, which is exactly what the fanzone is going to do.
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The fanzone is going to cause a LOT of trouble along with the one way system , like hundreds of others every matchday i have problems walking these days , so playing some kind of weird version of Ring O Round the Roses round The Amex every match day is not my idea of fun .

As for the afflicted they can wait as long as it takes to clear the home supporters , if they behaved like normal people they could enjoy a pint with us after the game , not that i expect a conga line like with the Naaarrrwwch lads :D

Sorry honestly thought i lost this post , so re did :facepalm:
 


Justice

Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
21,125
Born In Shoreham
schmunk said:
I'm fairly sure we exited as normal from the NW shelf at the last Palace game? :shrug:
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Most of us just want to get home and out of the elements as quick as possible. I have no desire to fight a Palace fan.

1. I don’t want any nasty Croydon diseases.
2. I really can’t be arsed.
 




Easy 10

Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,465
Location Location
kevo said:
If there was an NSC award for bad ideas, this would win it.
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Very much this. @Milano has clearly taken leave of his senses - holding back 28,000 fans to release 3,000 goons first ? What buffoonery is this ? Has this EVER happened in the history of football ?

I've been to every BHA v CPFC2010 game at the Amex (WSU), and can comprehensively state that, contrary to the posters statement, I have NEVER been held back after the game. Not once. Not even for 5 minutes.

What gives ?
 


Change at Barnham

Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
5,495
Bognor Regis
My understanding of the crush that happened last time:

Those Brighton fans in the South-West Stand, West Stand Upper, West Stand Lower and North Stand who needed to get to the Park & Ride and Coach Park were directed clockwise past the North Stand and East Stand exits.

Meanwhile those Brighton fans exiting the East Upper, East Lower and North Stand who needed to get to the station or Bridge Car Park were moving in an anti-clockwise direction.

The result being that two very large groups of people couldn't pass each other in the area outside the North Stand exit and Ticket office area causing a crush. (I'm 16 stone, 6 foot tall and was worried myself)

Since that time to pinch point has been narrowed due to the construction of the fan zone which will increase any potential crush at this pre-identified stress point.

It seems the obvious solution is to keep the Palace fans inside the ground after the game and let the Brighton fans in the South-West, West Lower and West Upper make their way to the coach park in the normal anti-clockwise direction past the South Stand.

If there are any injuries, the club can't say they haven't been made aware in advance.
 






mile oak

mile oak

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May 21, 2023
978
Change at Barnham said:
My understanding of the crush that happened last time:

Those Brighton fans in the South-West Stand, West Stand Upper, West Stand Lower and North Stand who needed to get to the Park & Ride and Coach Park were directed clockwise past the North Stand and East Stand exits.

Meanwhile those Brighton fans exiting the East Upper, East Lower and North Stand who needed to get to the station or Bridge Car Park were moving in an anti-clockwise direction.

The result being that two very large groups of people couldn't pass each other in the area outside the North Stand exit and Ticket office area causing a crush. (I'm 16 stone, 6 foot tall and was worried myself)

Since that time to pinch point has been narrowed due to the construction of the fan zone which will increase any potential crush at this pre-identified stress point.

It seems the obvious solution is to keep the Palace fans inside the ground after the game and let the Brighton fans in the South-West, West Lower and West Upper make their way to the coach park in the normal anti-clockwise direction past the South Stand.

If there are any injuries, the club can't say they haven't been made aware in advance.
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Agreed its not like the away fans will even see this happening and it moves the home fans along much quicker overall. I believe the difficulty is fans don't wear scarves and colours and you cant easily see who is who so because some of our fans will linger or take longer leaving for whatever reason, the police want to keep fans separated, BUT the simple answer is they know where the CP fans are - they are all contained so just kettle them outta the away end. Simples!
 


mile oak

mile oak

Well-known member
May 21, 2023
978
Change at Barnham said:
My understanding of the crush that happened last time:

Those Brighton fans in the South-West Stand, West Stand Upper, West Stand Lower and North Stand who needed to get to the Park & Ride and Coach Park were directed clockwise past the North Stand and East Stand exits.

Meanwhile those Brighton fans exiting the East Upper, East Lower and North Stand who needed to get to the station or Bridge Car Park were moving in an anti-clockwise direction.

The result being that two very large groups of people couldn't pass each other in the area outside the North Stand exit and Ticket office area causing a crush. (I'm 16 stone, 6 foot tall and was worried myself)

Since that time to pinch point has been narrowed due to the construction of the fan zone which will increase any potential crush at this pre-identified stress point.

It seems the obvious solution is to keep the Palace fans inside the ground after the game and let the Brighton fans in the South-West, West Lower and West Upper make their way to the coach park in the normal anti-clockwise direction past the South Stand.

If there are any injuries, the club can't say they haven't been made aware in advance.
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I see im not the only one thinking the fan zone perhaps isnt in the best place and actually could add to causing a crush. The other thing re the one way system is how well is it communicated and understood
 


The Fifth Column

The Fifth Column

Lazy mug
Nov 30, 2010
4,140
Hangleton
We should build a large underground sewer to and from the away end and once a season flush it out with the Palace effluent ro ensure all the rats and turds are cleaned away, they'll like that.
 




ManOfSussex

ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,256
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
As there's engineering works on Sunday meaning no trains east of Polegate I'm on Seagulls Travel and will have this to look forward to. Oh joy.
 


Peacehaven Wild Kids

Peacehaven Wild Kids

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Jan 16, 2022
3,587
The Avenue then Maloncho
Milano said:
I actually think it works better to hold us back. Holding back 27k for 30 mins is a lot easier than trying to dispurse 27k in 30 mins. Get rid of the 3k twats (how many have we given them this season?) in about 20 mins.
Agreed re the pinch point now at the fan zone, potentially not good.
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kevo said:
If there was an NSC award for bad ideas, this would win it.
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It’s close but someone on here once suggested that 25,000 of us wear a face mask of the recently passed Mr Knockaert Snr. to greet his grieving son on entering the pitch on his first match back.
 






trueblue

trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,027
Hove
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
Surely if there is a narrow pinch point everyone trying to go in the same direction eases some of the problem rather than people trying to squeeze past each other going in opposite directions?
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Not when you've got half the stadium trying to shuttle through an area that's now about one-third of the width it used to be, and it wasn't comfortable then.
 


mile oak

mile oak

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May 21, 2023
978
National rail planner showing Falmer 1652 direct to East Croydon arrival 1747 ( 1 stop 1729 Three Bridges). Presume this goes direct via Lewes?
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
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mile oak said:
NW family section exit via North stand? sounds like a crazy idea adding to the crush. I do find despite the need for the fan zone is it in the right area as it does seem to add to the bottleneck. At one point the area was to have a hotel i believe, where exactly was that gonna sit? Also if CP fans are held back why do our fans in the NW need to exit anywhere but where they normally do?

whatever DOES happen would be good if its communicated clearly in advance to all supporters.
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For domestic games, although Palace are penned in, they re actually allowed outside of the stadium behind the barriers, whereas European games when the doors remained shut for 30 mins after full time

I don’t know why there’s a variance, the poor loves human rights are probably at risk
 
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Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
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Thunder Bolt said:
It caused problems because people were still going forwards from the back when the front wasn’t moving. I can’t remember but don’t Palace have a special train, which holds everybody else up?
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They do, it even has a song

“Your special train, now f*** off home, woah woah your special train now f*** off home”
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Paulie Gualtieri said:
For domestic games, although Palace are penned in, they re actually allowed outside of the stadium behind the barriers, unless European games when the doors remained shut

I don’t know why there’s a variance, the poor loves human rights are probably at risk
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Stops them spending 30 mins smashing up the away end kiosks and lavvies ?
 


maltaseagull

maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
13,428
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Milano said:
I actually think it works better to hold us back. Holding back 27k for 30 mins is a lot easier than trying to dispurse 27k in 30 mins. Get rid of the 3k twats (how many have we given them this season?) in about 20 mins.
Agreed re the pinch point now at the fan zone, potentially not good.
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Are you forgetting the 10k who leave early? ;)
 


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