[Football] Sam Morsy

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mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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OK, I'll try again. I would have preferred him to refuse to wear them because football is about kicking a ball about and scoring goals and no place for pro-gay campaigns or anti-racist campaigns.
I probably wouldn't have bothered with the whole "trying again"
 




Eeyore

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Is this you telling Sam Morsy, that he 'shouldn't knock it till he's tried it?'
Sometimes these attitudes occurred because of the guilt of having tried and enjoyed.

In the old days, if there was a Tory scandal it was always sex, a Labour scandal was always money. There's a pattern there...
 


LamieRobertson

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this is all creating so much drama. Why does footbal feel the need to offer itself up for all sorts of campaigns, Poppy's, rainbow laces, whatever next. Its football, either have the campaigns and allow for personal choice without question or don't involve it in the game.

Aren't footballers fined for showing political messages undershirts etc? So why force anyone to wear something they don;t agree with.
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Paulie Gualtieri

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OK, I'll try again. I would have preferred him to refuse to wear them because football is about kicking a ball about and scoring goals and no place for pro-gay campaigns or anti-racist campaigns. Next thing footballers will be told they have to bring a pet onto the pitch in support of animal charities. Football matches are about football. That's quite sufficient thank you.

Keep up grandad
 






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Sometimes these attitudes occurred because of the guilt of having tried and enjoyed.

In the old days, if there was a Tory scandal it was always sex, a Labour scandal was always money. There's a pattern there...
The tories moved into the money area long go. Johnson monetized Covid for his chums.

But that was all legal, so it isn't a scandal. Phew!
 


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@Clive Walker has a point.

Stop the campaigns.

No more rainbow laces.

No more taking the knee.

No more poppies and last post during Remembrance.

No more minute applause or silence for the passing of a club legend.

No more National Anthem before internationals.

er....hang on.

What am I thinking? ???

What is wrong with being kind and inclusive and welcoming and making a show of it? FFS?

And what is right about sticking two fingers up at it?

Are there really religions that state that 'thou must be a ****' to minorities and women?
I don't think Islam preaches that. Not even Islam. And not Christianity either.

This is just ****s being ****s. Fancy that :shrug:
 
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Morsy has committed FIVE fouls, in the first 28 minutes of this game tonight, and somehow not yet carded.
 




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Morsy has committed FIVE fouls, in the first 28 minutes of this game tonight, and somehow not yet carded.
Pro-Muslim bias from referees.

They hate Israel. Fact.

Or.....it could just be coincidence :shrug:

Edit: f***ing boring game. These are a shite teams.
 




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Christ, I notice that Guéhi still has his doctored armband on.

He obviously wants a fight with he FA. Hope he loses.

I don’t know why he has to change or dilute the message?
Maybe he's signaling that he has a Spanish boyfriend? First name Gabriel?
 






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Just looked up Conor Coady while watching him play in the Leicester game.

"In November 2021, Coady was named Football Ally of the Year at the British LGBT Awards for his outspoken support for gay footballers.[68] Coady said that "Equality is a massive word, and when it comes to LGBTQ stuff, I'm big on making people feel involved."[68] Coady concluded that in his team "[criticising a player based on their sexuality] would never be the case within [our] dressing room."[68]"

That, Morsy, old fruit, is what is known as class.
 


pigbite

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Most religious people make their own religion up as they see fit. It truly is their "own" religion. To see double standards from a religious person is hardly surprising.

But... I stand by their rights to do so.

Even if the bigger double standard about moral positions to me is the hoops that have to be jumped through to try and explain Mohammed's marriage to a child bride.
 




Han Solo

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It's all very well saying don't wear an armband, but what about those people who are discriminated against in the game, the gay footballers who don't feel they can be honest with who they are, or just don't get picked if it is known. Are we actually saying it's more of a burden asking a captain to wear a coloured armband than someone facing real discrimination for who they are?

He represents a football club that will have youth football down to 6 year olds, women's teams, academy plus outreach programmes etc. Is it really too much to ask a representative of the football club to wear a symbol of inclusion?

He can retain his views on homosexuality being a sin and all the rest of it, BUT that doesn't mean he can't support homosexuals being included in sport. Mohamad Salah has no issue with wearing rainbow laces BECAUSE it is a symbol of inclusion, not whether he believes it is a sin or not. There is no hypocrisy unless the person choses to make it so.
Trying to stay entirely non-political here and just looking practically at it... I just don't think the quite authoritarian act of shaming people into wearing a politically charged symbol (not that it should be charged or anything, it is just is) they might not believe in or not don't want to wear for family/friend reasons is going to create anything good. I think it kind of makes people feel cornered and run in the other direction.

But ye I'm putting this thread on ignore before I go wild here, subject is way too interesting :lol:
 


The Clamp

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I wouldn’t wear one. Not anti LGBTQ+

I just don’t like wearing statement items like that.

Am I a prick for that?
 


Kalimantan Gull

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I wouldn’t wear one. Not anti LGBTQ+

I just don’t like wearing statement items like that.

Am I a prick for that?
Oh I think you would. If you were captain of a Premier league team and your club was joining this campaign, yeah I don't think you're the kind of person who would refuse to do it.
 


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I wouldn’t wear one. Not anti LGBTQ+

I just don’t like wearing statement items like that.

Am I a prick for that?
To be honest - like with James McClean and the poppy - NOT wearing it is a much bigger ‘statement’ than going along with it.
 






Nitram

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I’ll be interested in how Ipswich square his responsibilities as a captain with his Ipswich club duties with the wider Ipswich community and its LGBTQ representation. Unless of course Ipswich FC don’t give a stuff.
Not a lot of joined up thinking going on here and a kick in the teeth if you are Ipswich LGBTQ.
 


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