mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Yeah, that's never happened before....
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[Albion] VAR v Southampton
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Uh_huh_him
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Gallagher's summary was along the lines of players and pundits are split down the middle, therefore the on field decision should stand.
It's what most of us signed up to and goes along with teh "high bar" edict.
As you say, if Webb has come out with this decision being a mistake.....
Very , very, poor judgement from him.
ROSM
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I can only fund Russell Martin saying Howard Webb said the goal should have stood. I haven't seen a public statement from Webb himself.
Maybe he is saving it for his michael owen tv show. No spoilers eh Howard!
Maybe he is saving it for his michael owen tv show. No spoilers eh Howard!
Uh_huh_him
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Just seen the clip from Martin's presser.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...sallowed-goal-against-brighton-shouldve-stood
Sounds very much like he's taking a personal conversation with Webb out of context.
Webb's opinion was the on-field decision was wrong, and if the goal had been given VAR wouldn't have overturned it.
Martin is blowing that up into a much bigger, position saying that "the bottom line is it was a goal"
This is a subjective decision, completely open to interpretation.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...sallowed-goal-against-brighton-shouldve-stood
Sounds very much like he's taking a personal conversation with Webb out of context.
Webb's opinion was the on-field decision was wrong, and if the goal had been given VAR wouldn't have overturned it.
Martin is blowing that up into a much bigger, position saying that "the bottom line is it was a goal"
This is a subjective decision, completely open to interpretation.
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
VAR is shit, but so is Southampton, they're going down regardless.
The whole VAR debate is driven by those who force ever more CONTENT down our THROATS.
This would not be a disussion if people like Dermot Gallagher weren't on Sky, from a position on responsiblity as a former ref, saying stupid things like 'by the letter of the law it's offside, but then it comes down to opinions'. No it doesn't you twonk.
This would not be a disussion if people like Dermot Gallagher weren't on Sky, from a position on responsiblity as a former ref, saying stupid things like 'by the letter of the law it's offside, but then it comes down to opinions'. No it doesn't you twonk.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
All this fuss over a correct decision, when VAR & the ref literally lied and denied us a win at Spurs until Kane got the winner was something to moan about:
Uh_huh_him
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Lets not forget VAR drawing lines on the wrong player at Palace.
Barber should write to him
I think it's deliberate rather than controlled from the defender. But not when the offside player is making the defender make an attempt.
I don't agree that's it's subjective. He was definitely interfering with play, therefore offside.
I'm still angry
oldboyroy
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So Howard Webb hasn't officially said it was the wrong decision to disallow the goal and no letter of apology? (As far as we know). Its Russell Martin saying that Webb has told him, undermining Var!
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I might be misunderstanding your point, but the element of "is a player interfering with play" is the subjective element here.
It doesn't matter how obvious you think it is, there was a subjective element as a decision had to be made.
There was a subjective element to this decision as the player in question did not receive the ball.
If he received the ball then it's not subjective.
The subjective element is that the referee etc have to decide, in their opinion, whether his presence met the necessary criteria to be deemed offside. Ie did he make an attempt to touch the ball or did he impact play/an opponent with his presence in an offside position.
They decided he did.
Understood.