Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Both cards were universally accepted as correct (but harsh) decisions.
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[Albion] Baleba's second yellow
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pigmanovich
Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Sure, but I don't trust the PL to make rule changes only in cases where the inciting decisions were wrong, as opposed to those where the big clubs made enough noise. Not that things played out that way in this instance.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
Attwell has an agenda against Brighton. He was referee in the infamous Tottenham match when he got 2 goals disallowed and 2 penalties turned down. He is a biased **** as well as an incompetent referee.
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Justice
Dangerous Idiot
I agree he does come across biased against us they shouldn’t have that last corner IMO the game had run out of time it was on 8 or 9 minutes by then. Lewis Cook amazingly never got booked either with at least four bad tackles. I’m quite sure when they scored Pedro had been fouled earlier in the build up.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
Pedro was also smashed into just before Attwell imagined Baleba's foul for the second yellow.
Milano
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This is the legacy of Coote. NOW I can envisage a world where someone 'like' Attwell might hold a grudge against a particular club, and whilst he might not downright cheat he would never consider trying to own up to or to correct a mistake.
Altough as previously mentioned, Attwell wasn't going to issue a card until the 4th official stepped in.
I do feel a bit for refs though, Kerkez acted like he'd broken his ankle, in reality I'm not sure Carlos even touched him? The cheating in the EPL is beyond bad now.
Altough as previously mentioned, Attwell wasn't going to issue a card until the 4th official stepped in.
I do feel a bit for refs though, Kerkez acted like he'd broken his ankle, in reality I'm not sure Carlos even touched him? The cheating in the EPL is beyond bad now.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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If a mechanism exists for it to be overturned then it will be overturned shirley
Club can't appeal, the ref can include in his report that he made an error of judgement. It will not change the situation though
American Seagle
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What is the reason for not being able to appeal a red card from two yellows? Doesn't this mean that referees would stop b giving straight reds and give two yellows instead to avoid any potential appeals? What is stopping that from happening?
This is the key. The best way to improve refereeing in the Premier League is if 22 people stop trying to cheat him for 90 minutes.
Uh_huh_him
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Mellor 3 Ward 4
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He was fouled, but Atwell played 'an advantage', which didn't pan out.
What you can't do is appeal against a yellow given for the award of a 'foul' where there is debate around 'was it a foul'. Just imagine the number of appeals that could go in on a Monday morning
But it would make sense to be able to appeal 2nd yellows. Not so many of them.
It panned out exactly as he hoped.
Players trying to cheat had existed long before the PL has. That can't be solved.
And so did ref mistakes, but apparently that can be solved because people demand it to be solved all the time.
Just too bad it is seen as impossible and against nature to promote fair play on the pitch. I'm not so sure its as impossible as people think.
Taking off my Brighton hat.....was is really obviously not a foul? Imagine that maybe it was, after that, whether the foul warrants a booking is determined by lots of subjective issues that referees are allowed to mull over....the 'totting up' process, for example. Or 'persistent' naughtiness as it states on the little book of badly-written rules.
Oh, and VAR does not intrude over yellow cards because, apparently supporters just want the game to flow, and are happy to lose goals and players in order to achieve this state of grace.
(I'm in favour of more VAR but it means the ref ceding the decision to a man in a darkened room with a screen and, apparently, that would undermine the sanctity and magnificence of the game).
It was not a foul, but its a situation that certainly looks like a foul from various angles.Taking off my Brighton hat.....was is really obviously not a foul? Imagine that maybe it was, after that, whether the foul warrants a booking is determined by lots of subjective issues that referees are allowed to mull over....the 'totting up' process, for example. Or 'persistent' naughtiness as it states on the little book of badly-written rules.
Oh, and VAR does not intrude over yellow cards because, apparently supporters just want the game to flow, and are happy to lose goals and players in order to achieve this state of grace.
(I'm in favour of more VAR but it means the ref ceding the decision to a man in a darkened room with a screen and, apparently, that would undermine the sanctity and magnificence of the game).
I think what happened was that viewing this very rapid incident from one single angle that may not have been optimal, he thought Baleba caught the opponent and gave him his second yellow card.
Or its all a conspiracy and all the refs are working hard to help big teams like Bournemouth. Dunno.
Either way we need refs who can see every incident from every angle (robots or AI), because clearly as a species we're psychologically and physically unable to accept mistakes, to the point where human referees has now run its course.
Ref played advantage........which was fair enough but he should have booked the Muff player when play next stopped.