[Politics] This petition thingy

Arthur · 2024-11-25T12:27:47+0000

Greg Bobkin said:
"You lost, get over it" comes to mind...

People don't though. For some reason I can't get my head around people no longer believe in democracy if the vote goes against them.

Sussax said:
That being said, I'd much rather people sign a meaningless petition than take to the streets.

Couldn't agree more.

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This will be

Xm people have signed a petition for you to call a general election, will you do it Mr Starmer?
No!
Right lets move on.

Greg Bobkin · 2024-11-25T12:31:16+0000

Herr Tubthumper said:
Quite. Whatever happened to “The democratic will of the people”? Or doesn’t it count when they lose?

I'd describe myself as politically agnostic because it's all so tedious to me, but politics – here and in other places – seems to be just a mundance cycle of shite. Party A gets in and is – to a large extent – at the mercy of whether the economy (another cycle) is booming, at breaking point, or somewhere inbetween. Party A goes through ups and downs until things are so bad that people want a change to party B. Party B gets in and the whole charade happens all over again. May as well roll with it because most of the decisions are so far out of your control whether you vote or not!

Is it PotG? · 2024-11-25T12:36:46+0000

This current cabal think they can lie, lie and lie then get away with it.

Brovion · 2024-11-25T12:50:34+0000

Is it PotG? said:
This current cabal think they can lie, lie and lie then get away with it.

All politicians lie, all parties lie. Why? Because we don't like, and won't vote for politicians who tell the truth. Especially unpleasant truths.

Oh we say we do - but we don't. If Party X say "Things are really bad and the only way we can fix things is to raise taxes and maybe cut services", and Party Y say "Yes, things are really bad but we can work a bit of political magic and fix things without raising your taxes or cutting services" ... then people will vote for Party Y in their millions. Even though we're all a bit old to be believing in magic.

portlock seagull · 2024-11-25T12:54:26+0000

Why does everyone - continually - believe they have the right to change everything they disagree with? We had an election. Labour won. So just shut up and get on with your life until the next one!

Notters · 2024-11-25T13:04:11+0000

Is it PotG? said:
This current cabal think they can lie, lie and lie then get away with it.

I'm not a labour or conservative supporter per se, but how anyone can say this after the last lot is beyond me.

Justice · 2024-11-25T13:04:57+0000

portlock seagull said:
Why does everyone - continually - believe they have the right to change everything they disagree with? We had an election. Labour won. So just shut up and get on with your life until the next one!

We will all be penniless by then.

Thunder Bolt · 2024-11-25T13:06:33+0000

Notters said:
I'm not a labour or conservative supporter per se, but how anyone can say this after the last lot is beyond me.

Exactly, but you’ve just replied to NSC’s very own agent provocateur, who thinks its very amusing to stir.

Is it PotG? · 2024-11-25T13:08:20+0000

Thunder Bolt said:
Exactly, but you’ve just replied to NSC’s very own agent provocateur, who thinks its very amusing to stir.

Did someone mention agent provocateur?

sparkie · 2024-11-25T13:38:09+0000

Is it PotG? said:
This current cabal think they can lie, lie and lie then get away with it.

Do they ? I mean I dislike Starmer for charging my daughter (ie me) £200 per month to pay for her school fees, but nevertheless the impression I've got is that there is a lot less lying coming from Government since the election. :shrug:

Rdodge30 · 2024-11-25T13:54:11+0000

Herr Tubthumper said:
Quite. Whatever happened to “The democratic will of the people”? Or doesn’t it count when they lose?

Like the Lib Dems after the Brexit referendum saying, “Best of 3?”

HeaviestTed · 2024-11-25T13:55:14+0000

Took a second to look at the data and realise this is a load of nonsense:

239 people from Australia - what could they possibly be annoyed at labour for

Curious Orange · 2024-11-25T14:01:59+0000

I can't believe anyone would sign this petition, we get a vote every four or five years, that's how it works. We get to complain and grumble in the meantime, because that is also... how it works.

bazbha · 2024-11-25T14:04:14+0000

I hate the current Government with a passion but this petition is ridiculous. Labour won whether I like it or not. It shows that there are many people on both sides of the political spectrum who can't cope with not getting their own way I guess. Sad reflection on modern society. I sort of get how remoaners feel now though. If you feel that Brexit damages the country in the same way that I think 5 years of Labour will then I get your viewpoint. (The Tories were dreadful before any whataboutery kicks in!).

superseagull1994 · 2024-11-25T14:07:25+0000

HeaviestTed said:
Took a second to look at the data and realise this is a load of nonsense:

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239 people from Australia - what could they possibly be annoyed at labour for

Its even worse its 2391 people from Australia, maybe they got confused and thought it was about their lot

studio150 · 2024-11-25T14:10:09+0000

I've a better idea, set up a petition demanding world peace and solving climate change.

Once we get a few people to sign, all world leaders are bound to fall in line and fully agree and take action to achieve it.

We may then be able to enjoy Christmas this year.

Notters · 2024-11-25T14:46:31+0000

Thunder Bolt said:
Exactly, but you’ve just replied to NSC’s very own agent provocateur, who thinks its very amusing to stir.

Ah, you can tell then that I'm a little out of touch with all things NSC these days!

Molango's visa · 2024-11-25T15:01:16+0000

Is it PotG? said:
This current cabal think they can lie, lie and lie then get away with it.

Six months late with that post . . .

jackalbion · 2024-11-25T15:02:12+0000

What's the end goal of this nonsense?

Greg Bobkin · 2024-11-25T15:03:25+0000

I'd love to see how this played out, if it was decided (for whatever reason) to have a GE off the back of a random petition.

Then what? Wait until whichever party gets in to Fack more stuff up and then people throw their toys out of the pram AGAIN? And then have another GE and wait until whichever party gets in to Fack more stuff up and then people throw their toys out of the pram AGAIN? Etc, etc, etc.

We could live our lives in an annual state of election cycles an 'shit governments' and the PM would get about as much time in the gig as a PL manager! Yep, I'm sure that will provide the kind of stability the country needs to thrive! :lolol:

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