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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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Sorry to break it to you, but this current crisis has nothing to do with the B word. We're still talking with, co-operating with, and standiing with Europe in this dangerous situation.
Why would you be sorry to break that to me…
 




pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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Probably being dense and missing something obvious but why is Putin having a hissy fit about this? Have all the previous weapons used and other bits and bobs all been Ukrainian built or something?

Why is this any different?
 


Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Probably being dense and missing something obvious but why is Putin having a hissy fit about this? Have all the previous weapons used and other bits and bobs all been Ukrainian built or something?

Why is this any different?
The more that Putin complains about something, the more reason to do it, and to keep on doing it.

He does a very good job at scaring the west from taking the steps that would help defeat him.
 




Scappa

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Jul 5, 2017
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Probably being dense and missing something obvious but why is Putin having a hissy fit about this? Have all the previous weapons used and other bits and bobs all been Ukrainian built or something?

Why is this any different?
The only difference is that the British press have reported it this time. As posted in the WW3 thread, Russia has made 104 separate nuclear threats since 1999 with the threat per annum ramping up significantly over the last 3 years - 26 so far in 2024
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Probably being dense and missing something obvious but why is Putin having a hissy fit about this? Have all the previous weapons used and other bits and bobs all been Ukrainian built or something?

Why is this any different?
Largely because the West made such a massive watershed moment of it all.

We should never have put that restriction on ourselves and it wouldn’t be such a big deal that it is now happening.

I genuinely fear a large scale war. We would be very easy to defeat. We get some very basic moves wrong and we cower to bully’s.

Oooooh, what if we make Mr Putin angry?

Good! Get him angry. Angry people are easy to trick into making mistakes.
 




A1X

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From what I've learnt about global nuclear warfare, there eont be a great deal
Being killed quickly is the best deal.

But as I said yesterday, Putin doesn’t want to crawl out of the rubble of his bunker and start a subsistence farm on irradiated wasteland anymore than I do.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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From what I've learnt about global nuclear warfare, there wont be a great deal left to enjoy so I think I want to be first to be vaporised.
Their advice amounts to “go inside for a fortnight and eat tinned fruit”

My advice would be “blow your brains out”. A nuclear attack is not worth surviving.

I’d be the only **** driving towards London 🤣
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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f***ing humans, man!

How utterly ludicrous that one of the things we have to worry about is blowing ourselves out of existence!

Just get it over with. Earth is better off without us. Well, if we don’t make it uninhabitable for any life for the next 2.5 million years.

Jeez. f***ing humans!
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Being killed quickly is the best deal.

But as I said yesterday, Putin doesn’t want to crawl out of the rubble of his bunker and start a subsistence farm on irradiated wasteland anymore than I do.

I do. I've been practicing fallout and am well prepared.
 






pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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The only difference is that the British press have reported it this time. As posted in the WW3 thread, Russia has made 104 separate nuclear threats since 1999 with the threat per annum ramping up significantly over the last 3 years - 26 so far in 2024
I get what you're saying, but this time Putin has used these new weapons in response, which seems to be an escalation/response not seen before. Or, is this similar too?
 


Justice

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f***ing humans, man!

How utterly ludicrous that one of the things we have to worry about is blowing ourselves out of existence!

Just get it over with. Earth is better off without us. Well, if we don’t make it uninhabitable for any life for the next 2.5 million years.

Jeez. f***ing humans!
There is a theory aliens have visited earth and thought what a bunch of f***ing morons and left us to it.
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Putin won’t go nuclear.

I’m willing to say the same thing again on here in year’s time.

If I can get broadband in my subterranean bunker.
That's a statement that can't be put on trial.

If he does we'll be denied the opportunity to tell you how wrong you were.

In 75 years time, Brighton will win the European Champions League. Bookmark this :lolol:
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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West is BEST
Well,

If Putin does decide to go nuclear that is a whole different ball game.

However, tomorrow’s front pages carry the story that Putin now claims “UK targets are legitimate”

That could mean a few different things. But if he was foolish enough to launch conventional weapons at mainland U.K. I would hope he would be met with such show of force that Russia wouldn’t so much as threaten someone with a Chinese burn for the next 500 years.

I don’t think it will go nuclear but I do think Putin has sealed Russia’s fate as a defeated wreck of a nation for the foreseeable.

Putin never expected such sustained global resistance to his invasion of Ukraine. He cannot win the war.
 


essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
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Well,

If Putin does decide to go nuclear that is a whole different ball game.

However, tomorrow’s front pages carry the story that Putin now claims “UK targets are legitimate”

That could mean a few different things. But if he was foolish enough to launch conventional weapons at mainland U.K. I would hope he would be met with such show of force that Russia wouldn’t so much as threaten someone with a Chinese burn for the next 500 years.

I don’t think it will go nuclear but I do think Putin has sealed Russia’s fate as a defeated wreck of a nation for the foreseeable.

Putin never expected such sustained global resistance to his invasion of Ukraine. He cannot win the war.
If that c**t had had any sense - he'd have withdrawn completely after his joke of a "3 day plan" fell apart. .
 


Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Well I'm no expert, but I'm feeling unsettled. It doesn't have to be nuclear to be devastating.

Imagine if a foreign nation (say...Belarus) began launching interballistic missiles from their country into England - missiles which were directly supplied by the Russians, and given the green light by Putin to do so.

What should our response be, given that its basically what we are doing to Russia ? As a NATO member we know an attack on the UK is an attack on all members. Bloody hell.

Hopefully this is just another load of the usual Moscow sabre-rattling. But this does feel a little...different. And further escalation doesn't feel too far away now.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Well I'm no expert, but I'm feeling unsettled. It doesn't have to be nuclear to be devastating.

Imagine if a foreign nation (say...Belarus) began launching interballistic missiles from their country into England - missiles which were directly supplied by the Russians, and given the green light by Putin to do so.

What should our response be, given that its basically what we are doing to Russia ? As a NATO member we know an attack on the UK is an attack on all members. Bloody hell.

Hopefully this is just another load of the usual Moscow sabre-rattling. But this does feel a little...different. And further escalation doesn't feel too far away now.

I don’t see that we are basically doing that to Russia.

Russia invaded their neighbour.

We are providing arms to help rid a sovereign nation of an invading force.



Yes, it’s concerning but I don’t think we have much to worry about.

What country is going to risk being turned into a war zone by NATO for the sake of lobbing a few missiles onto the UK?
 


The Fifth Column

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Nov 30, 2010
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The correct thing to do is adopt Putins own rules of engagement and just lie about everything.

'We haven't authorised the use of our missiles and reject Russian claims they are being used as fake news'.

Just keep parroting that until he moves on to his next gripe and deny that as well.

I honestly don't even get why the media continue to provide an air of legitimacy and respect to Putin, he's a tyrannical terrorist dictator, they should report on him as such.
 


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