LamieRobertson
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Oh well done….but perhaps accept the vast majority may?Right so not all Palestinians follow Islam
Oh well done….but perhaps accept the vast majority may?Right so not all Palestinians follow Islam
Inciting voilence I thinkWhat are visiting fans from the Middle East doing tearing down Palestinian flags in a European country?
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And you of all people would blindly defend the Israelis no matter what without any context. I see you're already at it laughing reacting to anything that doesn't match your opinion, how long until you're banned from this thread too?You of all people, would say that
I don't think anyone is debating that, but I'm pretty sure if we went to Poland, during the Iraq War, started singing about how there are no more schools in Iraq because there are no more children, then if any local Iraqis were about I don't think they'd take it too kindly no? Could this situation been avoided in the previous days? Yes it definitely could have, to my knowledge Tomer Hemed has not been wandering around town tearing stuff down, so why on earth would he be attacked, not really comparable at all. If I saw someone attacking Taxi drivers and tearing down Palestine flags in Brighton, I'd probably tell them to stop being an idiot and if they carried on they'd endanger others.Some quite unwise comments on here, whatever your politics or thoughts on the conflict. Why should non-military Israelis be subject to attacks when they come to the Netherlands, a nation that has next to nothing to do with the Middle East (apart from the minorities that live in all western European nations)? It's equivalent to Brighton fans going abroad to somewhere like Poland during the Iraq war and getting attacked there because our country has invaded a Middle Eastern nation. There are countries Israelis would be understandably cautious travelling to right now - the Netherlands shouldn't be one of them.
Obviously, the reports of some Maccabi fans chanting anti-Palestine songs and tearing flags down is wrong. But the incidents of innocent Maccabi fans being hunted down because they're Israeli is terrible. Should Tomer Hemed be attacked by Brighton fans here in England because he's Israeli? Clearly not.
Right but you asked what percentage of muslims in Gaza follow islam well that would be all of them, so I thought I'd best point out that Palestinians aren't all muslimsOh well done….but perhaps accept the vast majority may?
It shouldn’t, but it does amuse me hearing Americans often pronouncing it Gazza. My first thought is “What has Gazza done now”We need politics out of football. More Gazza, less Gaza.
Gazza to turn up on the Gazza Strip, with a fishing rod, a six pack of beers and some fried chicken…It shouldn’t, but it does amuse me hearing Americans often pronouncing it Gazza. My first thought is “What has Gazza done now”
There aren't many Jews in the surrounding countries anymore despite there being large thriving communities in the past. Polarisation of views made it very unsafe for them to stay once the state of Israel was founded and they were actively encouraged to 'return' to the 'promised land'. Descendants of these immigrants make up approximately 50% of current the population Israel (bear in mind 25% of total population is not Jewish).The 'downtrodden Israeli Arabs' hold all sorts of important positions in Israeli society. Including the judge who sent an Israeli premier to prison. Compare & contrast with Jews in surrounding countries. Or Gaza
ContextI don't think anyone is debating that, but I think a bit of context by all sides is needed, which clearly isn't happening.
I have no idea.Conversely why is someone putting up a bloody Palestine flag in Europe
Thank you for this mister sloth. Reading the BBC etc it would appear that these innocent victims of nazi hatred were just attending a match. The rescue flights etc are a pile of crap. Why is our media (and it looks like Dutch media too) so very biased?So from what I've seen the Maccabi Tel Aviva fans whistled during the minutes silence for Valencian flood victims, chanted about killing Arabs during the game. Then after the game they attacked cars and removed flags from buildings, then when they were attacked cried anti-Semitism?
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Edit: I'm not condoning the violence against the Maccabi fans however, there's no place for violence in football on either side.
But a key point to stress is that prior to 7th October they could play (limited) football but on that day Hamas on behalf of the people of Gaza declared war on Israel by attacking civilians in a most brutal way which was only ever intended to provoke a brutal response which has happened.Context
and perspective.
Of course the football violence against Israeli fans should be condemned as should all football violence ( and that is what it is I assume, ultras and tribalism)
But my first thoughts when hearing of this is that:
Since the conflict broke out, Palestine’s WC qualifying home games have been played in Kuwait and Qatar - because “for the people of Gaza – Football is gone, all professional stadiums destroyed, and footballers killed …”
'We have no future': Gaza's footballers plead with Fifa to help them escape
Gaza Premier League stars say their careers have been destroyed, with former teammates and coaches among those killed in Israeli strikesinews.co.uk
Killing the Goalkeeper - Prominent Gaza Footballer Among Al-Mawasi Massacre Victims
Shadi Abu al-Araj, the goalkeeper for Shabab Khan Yunis Football Club, was killed on Saturday in the Al-Mawasi massacre.www.palestinechronicle.com