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[News] Mike Amesbury MP - Rocky VIII: Backbench Brawler



TugWilson

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GT49er said:
Yes, there are such circumstances, but we don't know if any such apply here. It certainly doesn't look good - the punch itself is bad enough, but the continued assault on the man on the ground might be a tad harder to justify; that really, really doesn't look good.
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Some on this thread have suggested he might have said something totally unacceptable about his family , but we don`t know that . If that is true then especially with the position he holds he would have the full and immediate backing of the law , surely more damaging and lasting than a few cowardly smacks in the face .

The actions he chose in the condition he was in at the time of the unprovoked attack show the true character of the (loosely) man .
 




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Kinky Gerbil said:
From the guardian.


The two men had been rowing about the temporary closure of Sutton Weaver swing bridge that connects Frodsham with the village of Sutton Weaver and is due for substantial repair works, a witness told the Times.

The bridge was due to be closed for several weeks in January and March, leading to a 20-mile detour for some local people, which Amesbury had previously called “unacceptable”. Though the planned closure is on hold and is scheduled to be moved to the half-term holidays to limit disruption, it remains extremely contentious locally.

A Labour source said the row also involved controversial cuts to the winter fuel payment.
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I knew it was about an argument regarding a temporary bridge closure, I knew it.
 




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Kinky Gerbil said:
From the guardian.


The two men had been rowing about the temporary closure of Sutton Weaver swing bridge that connects Frodsham with the village of Sutton Weaver and is due for substantial repair works, a witness told the Times.

The bridge was due to be closed for several weeks in January and March, leading to a 20-mile detour for some local people, which Amesbury had previously called “unacceptable”. Though the planned closure is on hold and is scheduled to be moved to the half-term holidays to limit disruption, it remains extremely contentious locally.

A Labour source said the row also involved controversial cuts to the winter fuel payment.
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A Bridge Too Far for Rocky.
 


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Kinky Gerbil said:
The bloke he lamped looks calm and not at all aggressive.

You can only really make out the MPs voice who sounds pissed up and agressive.
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Right? It’s like he’s auditioning for a role in a bad action movie. The calm guy just standing there while Amesbury acts like he’s in a bar brawl is the real plot twist. Maybe he thought he was in "Rocky IX: The Swing Bridge Showdown"!
 


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It is inevitable that given the huge number of seats the Labour Party have that incidents/stories like this will be a fairly regular occurrence over the next 4 years or so..

To even be just a politician, requires a big mouth, a big ego and the ability not to listen to others opinions anymore. There just aren't enough old school politicians who believed in creating a better Britain for all, to go around...whatever Party they felt served us best.
 


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cjd said:
It is inevitable that given the huge number of seats the Labour Party have that incidents/stories like this will be a fairly regular occurrence over the next 4 years or so..

To even be just a politician, requires a big mouth, a big ego and the ability not to listen to others opinions anymore. There just aren't enough old school politicians who believed in creating a better Britain for all, to go around...whatever Party they felt served us best.
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In age of cctv and camera phones, shirley none of them will be as thick as Amesbury.
 










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What he did was out of order, especially the follow up. However, I am not going to bay for blood until I find out what actually was said. Most, if not all of us, have a breaking point and the more primal part of the brain takes over once that has been reached. Until we know what was said I don't think we are in a position to say what he should have done with regard to de-escalating the situation. With all that said he shouldn't get away with it, but until the full context of the situation becomes clear I am not going to throw stones at him either.
 




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What he did was out of order, especially the follow up. However, I am not going to bay for blood until I find out what actually was said. Most, if not all of us, have a breaking point and the more primal part of the brain takes over once that has been reached. Until we know what was said I don't think we are in a position to say what he should have done with regard to de-escalating the situation. With all that said he shouldn't get away with it, but until the full context of the situation becomes clear I am not going to throw stones at him either.
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I'm trying to think of anything that someone might say to me in the street, that would result in me punching them like that, and continue to punch and kick them when they were on the ground. Anything at all? Nope. Add in the clear fact that the MP was not in any physical danger, and he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Which is quite appropriate as he was probably legless at the time. I love that expression that he’d "been out with friends". Usually a polite way of saying he was pretty drunk.

End of his career as an MP though he should at least be able find work as a doorman at one of his local nightclubs.
 


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Professor Plum said:
I'm trying to think of anything that someone might say to me in the street, that would result in me punching them like that.
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Who knows, we all have our triggers, some will have things that just push a button and the rational side loses control, and some people know exactly what to do and say to achieve this. I am not defending him, nor condoning his actions, but I am saying there could be mitigating circumstances, stuff between the two that we do not know about, and therefore unlike others I am not going to start chanting gaol him until we know the full context.
 


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nickjhs said:
Who knows, we all have our triggers, some will have things that just push a button and the rational side loses control, and some people know exactly what to do and say to achieve this. I am not defending him, nor condoning his actions, but I am saying there could be mitigating circumstances, stuff between the two that we do not know about, and therefore unlike others I am not going to start chanting gaol him until we know the full context.
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So you what you’re saying then is if there are mitigating circumstances it’s acceptable to knock a guy down and continue to rain blows down on him whilst he’s on the ground, im assuming if there are mitigating circumstances you would support capital and corporal punishment then?
 


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Chicken Run said:
So you what you’re saying then is if there are mitigating circumstances it’s acceptable to knock a guy down and continue to rain blows down on him whilst he’s on the ground, im assuming if there are mitigating circumstances you would support capital and corporal punishment then?
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No not at all, show me where I said it was acceptable behaviour. And why on earth would I support capital or corporate punishment. You are really not being particularly rational.
 




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Professor Plum said:
I'm trying to think of anything that someone might say to me in the street, that would result in me punching them like that, and continue to punch and kick them when they were on the ground. Anything at all? Nope. Add in the clear fact that the MP was not in any physical danger, and he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Which is quite appropriate as he was probably legless at the time. I love that expression that he’d "been out with friends". Usually a polite way of saying he was pretty drunk.

End of his career as an MP though he should at least be able find work as a doorman at one of his local nightclubs.
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Suppose someone said to you in an angry/rude tone that they were peeved about a bridge closure and WFP changes.

You too would sucker punch them, then deliver a series of whacks to the back of their undefended skull.

It’s a primal instinct in every single one of us.
 


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Professor Plum said:
I'm trying to think of anything that someone might say to me in the street, that would result in me punching them like that, and continue to punch and kick them when they were on the ground. Anything at all? Nope. Add in the clear fact that the MP was not in any physical danger, and he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Which is quite appropriate as he was probably legless at the time. I love that expression that he’d "been out with friends". Usually a polite way of saying he was pretty drunk.

End of his career as an MP though he should at least be able find work as a doorman at one of his local nightclubs.
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His mates? Johnnie Walker and Jim Beam, oh, and the old navy chap Captain Morgan.
 


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