- Oct 17, 2008
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[News] Mike Amesbury MP - Rocky VIII: Backbench Brawler
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- Oct 20, 2022
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This case will be sub judice so the facts or possible charges are not something one should be speculating about on a football forum - suffice to say, I found the video of an elected MP engaged in an apparently one sided physical attack rather shocking.
I worked in bars and clubs in Brighton many years ago (and hung out with a lot of bands) , and have to say, drunken brawls were two a dozen on a Saturday night - Had the misfortune back in the day to go to A&E one late Friday night for a nasty fall in the snow - absolutely packed with bloodied drinkers who’d got into it with other drinkers over some petty shlt or other.
However, apart from the fact that elected public officers even in their private lives, have a contractual duty usually not to bring their organisations into repute, an MP that feels provoked or ‘threatened’ (and most do sadly) has so many recourses at his or her fingertips that others don’t - including having access to policing and a named contact at their local police force to assist them in security matters as well as counselling. If the security stresses that go with the public office are still to much, even with all that, then they need to step away from the post/job - Labour did exactly the right thing and immediately suspended the whip.
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I worked in bars and clubs in Brighton many years ago (and hung out with a lot of bands) , and have to say, drunken brawls were two a dozen on a Saturday night - Had the misfortune back in the day to go to A&E one late Friday night for a nasty fall in the snow - absolutely packed with bloodied drinkers who’d got into it with other drinkers over some petty shlt or other.
However, apart from the fact that elected public officers even in their private lives, have a contractual duty usually not to bring their organisations into repute, an MP that feels provoked or ‘threatened’ (and most do sadly) has so many recourses at his or her fingertips that others don’t - including having access to policing and a named contact at their local police force to assist them in security matters as well as counselling. If the security stresses that go with the public office are still to much, even with all that, then they need to step away from the post/job - Labour did exactly the right thing and immediately suspended the whip.
MPs' security | Institute for Government
Increasing levels of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia have seen a rise in threats made to MPs. So what security do they receive and how is this funded?
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- Oct 17, 2008
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Covered above - almost certainly will be sub judice but until such time that he is arrested and brought before a magistrate, it isn’t.
Edit: nobody has said anything libellous and have sensibly stuck to commenting on the content of the videos. Any speculation made has actually been in his defence, including possible mitigating factors such as provocation.
Sub judice would not apply at this time. The video is being shown and commented on by every major news source.
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I bet shouting “ come here c u n t y” in the park is embarrassing?
Well of course it would
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er … did you misunderstand my post?
I said it “will” be. I also said ”suffice to say l” as part of the same sentence - therefore the ‘speculating’ comment refers to me not wanting to speculate. I haven’t read the whole thread so have no idea what has been ‘covered above’ anyway.
Where did I accuse anyone of being ‘libellous’ or there was anything wrong with the video being shown
Your post was unnecessarily defensive and my comment taken out of context.
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*sigh*. You’re a decent bloke but I really can’t be bothered with you sometimes. Have a good day.er … did you misunderstand my post?
I said it “will” be. I also said ”suffice to say l” as part of the same sentence - therefore the ‘speculating’ comment refers to me not wanting to speculate. I haven’t read the whole thread so have no idea what has been ‘covered above’ anyway.
Where did I accuse anyone of being ‘libellous’ or there was anything wrong with the video being shown
Your post was unnecessarily defensive and my comment taken out of context.
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Ah apologies then. I misunderstood your post.
Because you quoted me saying the case would be sub judice and that I didn’t want to speculate, I assumed your argument about nobody had been libellous on the thread or it was ok to post the video was directed at me.
edit - ie it sounded that you had taken my post it as a criticism of your thread (which it wasn’t !)
Cheeky Monkey
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Being punched in the head is never a good thing, in a controlled setting with padded gloves or otherwise. I wonder how many of those who 'love boxing' would be willing to try it for themselves. The statistics for brain injuries/CTE are pretty grim and not always overt in boxers until much later in life.
Lenny Rider
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So how many of the July 4th intake no longer have the Labour whip?
nevergoagain
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I think it's 8 suspended now with Rosie who left completely. A bit careless.
Weststander
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Just saw the later video on Sky News, gets worse every time you see it. Repeatedly whacking the back of the skull of a defenceless person.
Wanker.
Wanker.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Agree. The next news will be his arrest.
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Just seen this. Should go down for that in my opinion, but may not depending on what the story is when the case is heard.
Remind me to not comment on posts till I have read the repliesAh apologies then. I misunderstood your post.
Because you quoted me saying the case would be sub judice and that I didn’t want to speculate, I assumed your argument about nobody had been libellous on the thread or it was ok to post the video was directed at me.
edit - ie it sounded that you had taken my post it as a criticism of your thread (which it wasn’t !)
(I do love the 'delete post' feature - my premature comment is now......deleted!).
Lenny Rider
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Bearing in mind Reform came second, albeit 15,000 votes behind, Uncle Nigel has already called for a By Election
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The concern is any delayed impact to the victim.
Again not wanting to speculate or be overly dramatic about this but victims have died weeks later from blood clots caused by head traumas.
In the least, I hope his victim gets a CT scan - the videos are absolutely shocking.
As a labour member I am appalled and feel he should resign however I am old enough to remember John Prescott thumping someone again on camera the one Ness said she knew it was meant for her.
Prescott I do believe was not removed from his post did not loose the whip and remained a party member.
How times change
Prescott I do believe was not removed from his post did not loose the whip and remained a party member.
How times change
Weststander
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'That jab' was an instinctive reaction to some tw@t aggressively throwing an egg in his face at point blank, all literally in a microsecond.
I'm pleased Prescott kept his job and wasn't prosecuted.