- Oct 17, 2008
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Hardly split second. Honestly, just watch it back yourself a few times. They’re talking/arguing, the bloke looks away, the MP takes the opportunity to hit him. It’s clear as day.
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happypig
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No injury would make it Common Assault, the maximum penally is 6 months imprisonment.
Any "Self defence" argument ends when he hits the bloke when he's on the floor.
It's not Affray. That's usually reserved for group action. Whether it is charged (if it is charged at all) as Common Assault or ABH is down to any injuries received (although I have personally seen CPS under-charge with Common Assault when the victim had been battered and had significant bruising).
Weststander
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I’m expecting a statement that he’s booked himself into The Priory. Substance abuse after a traumatic childhood …. a since dead relative hit him.
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Far right thug headbutted my fist
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A real possibility. Really helps to do this before pleading guilty to demonstrate remorse to the court that you’ve done it yourself without being court-ordered.
Yes it is. Which if you were incapable through drink you couldn’t do.
I’m not defending him. It’s actually worse with a level of sobriety thrown in. More calculated.
I agree, contrary to what others said, he wasn't walking away. As you say he did turn his head slightly towards the camera and does get sucker punched at that point.
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I just think it’s entirely common to be effective in a fight even when hammered drunk. I’ve seen it myself many, many times.
I’m sure no one on NSC has ever done such a thing though. Those old school hooliganism threads must literally be about dancing and running.
Weststander
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Good points, I thought about those extremes too.
But for harmless (at pre charges stage) social media chat, things don’t look good and we can be judges/executioners. NSC also did this for Mason Greenwood, Ryan Giggs, the rioters and I condemned the violence of the unfunny video of people getting beaten up down Station Road Portslade.
No doubt this thread will be locked if Amesbury is charged.
ManOfSussex
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With a little bit. With a little bit of bloomin' luck.
Weststander
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I was at the games at peak trouble 76 onwards but too young and not into cowards punching people who supported loathed rivals. It wasn’t Queensbury’s Rules, far from it.
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This. At this time it’s perfectly legal to speculate and react to evidence in the public domain. However, once the case becomes sub judice it is not.
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Alan Ford’s face when he does this is priceless
ManOfSussex
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There's many contenders but Terry Norton is arguably the greatest Alan Partridge character.Alan Ford’s face when he does this is priceless
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Totally agree, love seeing Alan just completely out of his depth like that. It’s brilliantly acted.
A lot might depend on whether the guy that got lamped is prepared to press charges and be a witness. I believe the CPS could still prosecute based on video evidence, especially bearing in mind who he is.
clapham_gull
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Blimey. Maybe I live in a parallel universe, but I never understand the compulsion to punch someone in the head.
Another debate but it's the main reason I've never understood boxing. For every pissed up MP there are millions cheering on an upper cut.
Twat.
Another debate but it's the main reason I've never understood boxing. For every pissed up MP there are millions cheering on an upper cut.
Twat.
ManOfSussex
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Alan Ford was fantastic, a great actor as you say. Him as 'Bricktop' in 'Snatch' was just brilliant.
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Pressing charges isn’t actually a thing. It isn’t actually you, the person, deciding that, it’s the Crown. The police might ask whether you intend to “support the prosecution” by acting as a witness, but even if you decline they can proceed.
Assuming he pleads guilty, the point is moot. The police don’t have to tell the suspect that the witness isn’t cooperating, and he’d only find this out when the defence receive their witness list discovery pre-trial.
In my opinion, there is no chance this case gets that far as it’s open and close, and he’ll be advised on the strength of his case and his chances at trial pretty quickly.
Pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity affords the lightest possible sentence.